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Rian Johnson says fans haven't 'nailed the big stuff' yet.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Dec 5, 2017.

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We haven't nailed biggest question of TLJ at all.

Poll closed Feb 20, 2018.
  1. Yikes.

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  2. Rian is bluffing.

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  1. Rogues1138

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    I hope its not in the film because I'll be waiting for it.
     
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    I remember being disappointed about the shot of Kylo and the knights just being a "forceback vision"
    That would be ... not cool

    but I don't think it's a vision, it could be but we have :
    - Rey being "tortured"/"showed her place" by Snoke in the throne room
    - Photo of Blurry-Ren behind Rey, when comparing this with the shots of Kylo kneeling before Snoke, it is the same place, we assume (I'm 90% sure) it's the throne room
    - Rey grabbing Kylo's lightsaber in Snoke's throne room

    I mean, at this point she's not just "tempted" by the dark side, she's a force vision roommate
     
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    i never do that: wait for moments to arrive. i can see how it would be a distraction though.

    that whole TIE scene in R1 not being in the final cut? didn't even realize until after i left the movie that it wasn't in there.
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    you're right, it would seem like that's what takes place.

    i'll start by saying, even the scene with Snoke torturing Rey seemed... weird, to me. it didn't feel like it was actually happening but that it is part of some vision or something.

    i'm predicting that this mysterious "bond" between Ren and Rey involves Rey tapping into Ren's experiences.

    when Kylo Ren comes back to Snoke empty handed, Starkiller Base destroyed, he tortures Ren; Rey feels that too.

    when Kylo Ren comes back not having killed his mother, defying Snoke's command? Ren tries to fight back against the guards. who knows what happens then...

    that's just a crazy idea that popped into my head.

    back to reality, where in the film would this be taking place? and where does that put the battle of Crait?

    we know that Rey is in the Falcon during the battle of Crait, so that would mean that gets pushed closer to the middle of the film while Rey being captured happens afterwards; this begs the question, how does this movie end?? crazy stuff.

    if Rey is captured prior to the battle of Crait, how the heck does she escape?
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    to further my speculation...

    this narrative tool of the two characters sharing experiences would allow for Rey to learn about Luke and his teachings.

    each time Rey starts to learn something Ren is able to witness it; this plays as a flashback, allowing the story to be told from when Ren was still a pupil.
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    further...

    it also serves as a way to truly witness the pain and suffering that made Ben Solo become Kylo Ren. both from Snoke and, from a certain point of view, his own family.
     
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    Interesting comment overall I r8 8/8

    On the "torture" thing I completely agree with you about it looking weird, I thought the same at first when the trailer was released.

    The battle of Crait stuff is interesting, timeline is off a little

    There's that wound above Rey's eye, she supposedly has it on Crait, but not when Kylo brings her to Snoke, But she has it when she is force pushing who-ever in the other footage we had

    And yes, I agree there are a few interesting ways to use this "force bond". It can serve the story going forward and it can also tell us about Kylo and Luke's past, this way Rey can be up to date and ready to go.
     
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    cheers!

    it's curious to think about how during the duel in TFA Kylo talks about the Force and she suddenly becomes powerful, like she's already picking up on his Force energy.

    i wonder what it is about Rey that allows this to happen. or maybe it takes two to tango...

    maybe Rey is some sort of Force siphon, like that weird pit in the planet Jakku.

    actually... i hate theories including Jakku and Force siphon/drain/whatever. strike that from the record, please.

    #ReyloConfirmed ;) for you, @master_shaitan and @McDiarmid
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    sorry about the double post...
     
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    Fret not my child, it's already been done

     
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    That scene is being played in reverse. She is not grabbing lightsaber. She is doing opposite move
     
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    With 26 TV spots at this point, I'm a little skeptical that we haven't figured out a lot of what happens (even if we don't have the chronology altogether)

    Were there this many tv spots for TFA? I don't remember there being that many
     
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