Rian Johnson to create a new Star Wars trilogy!

That's only true if the story is about events that involve the entire Galaxy. It's possible to tell stories that have a little impact on the Galaxy as whole, but are still consequential. If, as an example, Rian Johnson's trilogy is set in a remote area of the Galaxy, involving a war between two systems made up of a dozen planets each - it could still be a epic in scale, but logically set apart from anything involving the Skywalkers. Whatever government is left after Ep9 likely won't have the reach of the Old Republic, and small number of Jedi wouldn't be able to police an entire Galaxy.

I don't agree with your assumption that continuing the Skywalker Saga necessarily equates to a loss of creativity. You don't even know how the ST will end - how can say that it's certain that anything following it would become stale? There are a lot of talented, creative people out there - who's to say that none of them can think of a new an exciting way to carry the Skywalker story forward?

Regardless, there is no chance whatsoever that the Skywalker Saga is about to end for good. There will be Epsiodes X, XI and XII. It's a matter of if, not when. Even if they currently intend to end the Skywalker Saga at IX (and that's pretty unlikely in and of itself), once interest in new Star Wars movies begins to decline, they will go back to it.

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It certainly could - but I think re-inventing a story that has already been done (and is much loved) makes creating a new trilogy much more difficult. I'm not saying it can't be done well, but it would be more difficult, and it's not what I would prefer.

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I think this is a smart idea. Now, at the very least, the ST's timeline has some time to rest if it needs it.

We could either continue with this current trend of Trilogy Movie/Spinoff alternating but swapping the ST for RJ's trilogy or we could just alternate between trilogies.

Personally, I think it'd be great to give the ST a bit of time to rest after EPIX- that way, we don't have to immediately have to dive into a new story and we'd be all the more hyped for a new Rey/Finn/Kylo trilogy if it came as late as 2027.

 

Exactly - a new trilogy could be about a conflict on a single planet/system. It could be about a conflict with a Hutt Lord or other gangster. It could be a story about a Rebellion/Resistance fighter(s) who never had any contact with Luke. It could be characters we might have seen as villains and now casting them as heroes etc... The same can be said about continuing the Skywalker story - any original story you could think of for another Jedi/force user could be applied to Rey. There is nothing inherent about the Skywalkers that = unoriginal.

Didn't TFA re-invent a story that had already been done and was much loved?

 

I'm still giddy with excitement over The News... Having Rian start a new trilogy was my optimistic prediction for the distant future, so this announcement feels absolutely surreal. This is better than him doing IX.

The fact that they announced it before confirming the third standalone makes me think they could be planning to release it in 2020, straight after IX. IMO that would be perfect. Strike while the iron is hot! Then go back to standalones in 2021, the new trilogy #2 in 2022 etc. I imagine LFL would prefer to give us the first instalment of Rian's trilogy ASAP rather than another SW Story, which seem to cause a lot of production problems for whatever reason.

The longer I think about it the more I want this to be an Old Republic kind of thing. An entire era created by Rian? Yes, please. Star Wars is at its best when it's about the Force, so I don't think they would risk 3 movies by doing something niche like e.g. an underworld story. That would be a waste of potential. Go big! Utilise Rian's creative power! If they set it in the past, the games should obviously be disregarded. You don't hire RJ to do an adaptation.

I'm wondering how literally should we take the wording of the press release. "Johnson will introduce new characters from a corner of the galaxy that Star Wars lore has never before explored." It sounds more like it's about a different culture within the GFFA (Unknown Regions?) than a time jump to early Jedi and Sith. But maybe it's kind of metaphorical.

 

I think the biggest challenge for Rian is to create brand new characters that everyone will like. Will they become as iconic as Han/Luke/Leia/R2D2/Vader, etc? Time will tell. This will be the first Star Wars movie with all new characters since 1977.

 

Or it could replace the Stand Alones and Episode comes out in 2021 - we'll have to wait and see.

While a prequel going back hundreds of thousands of years before TPM is certainly a possible direction, I wouldn't expect it to look anything like The Old Republic/Knights of the Old Republic Legends material.

Corner could be anything .........

 

My take on this isn't that it necessarily means TLJ is a masterpiece (though I really hope so!).
It really means that they were so impressed with what he did creatively with a narrative that was already (to an extent) set-up and handed to him, that they started wondering what amazing stuff he could do given free reign.
This definitely means to me that we will see really cool and unique things in TLJ.

I wonder if in hindsight someone was thinking "Imagine we had given this to RJ at the start rather than JJ?", especially given criticisms about similarity to the OT.

Anyway, speculation but exciting times! You have to root for Rian anyway, he really comes across great and says all the right things about story-telling

 

Well, the intention of TFA was to draw from the OT, so no matter what filmmaker would have made it, we would still get a film that was similar to Episodes IV, V and VI.

 

Yep. TFA was always meant to be a palate cleanser, a good will movie to get Star Wars back to where the *majority* of fans wanted it to be.

 

Yup, I hope it would be something completely different. I love the first KotOR, but in general the cinematic potential of the world it introduced is highly exaggerated by some fans. It borrows too much from the films.

 

Even if it is OId Republic era, I hope that it's gone through a bit of a change- not unlike how TFA was different from previous post-ROTJ Legends stuff- to make it both meaningful to the current canon and fresh for those of us already familiar with KOTOR.

Not enough to necessarily alienate existing fans (I disagree with those who want Old Republic without a Revan), but to at least not be a total rehash.

 

I just don't buy that there has been no technological, social, or political progress in 4,000 years. That why it just comes off as Fan Fic.

years ago on another forum there was apparently a leaked outline for a Yoda movie by Lucas - I would assume that would be more what we'd get out of a long in the past prequel.

 

I was writing an idea for a story where we follow "the first person" to encounter the force and establish the Jedi. It was a time before technology and space travel - set on one world. The idea was that after the force is discovered and then there is a sudden technological leap. This planet quickly modernises and builds the first star ship and tye early Jedi begin to explore the galaxy. Probably make a better tv series though. But I agree that the idea that things have esssentially been the same for thousands of years is a bit off.

 

LOL - too funny

"No release dates have been set for the new films, and no porgs were available for comment."

Oh ... and yes. This IS great news!

 

SPOILER ALERT!

no porgs were available because they're all dead! : o O

#ChewieDidIt
#HuxVsAhch-To
#SilenceThePorgs​

 

Well there is alive action tv series coming too.

The leaked outline took place 1,000 years before TPM (yes Yoda was 900 when he died - Lucas never really paid attention to these details. Anakin is 43 in RotJ....please). The Sith Empire has ruled the Galaxy for 1,000 years and the Jedi have been locked in a war/struggle with them for that entire time. In fighting has weakened the Empire and the Jedi jump on that opportunity to strike. Yoda, Padawan, is part of a team of Jedi sent to the heart of the Empire to bring it down. They succeed, the remaining Sith go underground and formulate the rule of two while the Republic is established and the Jedi take the role of peacekeepers.

Unlike the legends Old Republic stuff, this actually fits with the PT - no war since formatino of the republic, the republic has stood for 1,000 years, the Sith will rule the galaxy ONCE MORE etc...

 

Without wishing to derail the thread. yes. I get the objective, but I believe in the strength of artistic vision means that some people can't get help but stamp their personality uniquely on things. For example: starkiller base rhymes with the Death Star, but there could ahve been more subtle ways to rhyme with it. Another superweapon of sorts. (doesn't need to be a big round thing that blows blast up ) Again, an observation my part. So I still belive that the RJ take on Star Wars must be more unique than someone who may have attacked this narrative direction. Lets wait and see.

 

it's great news that RJ has a trilogy of his own. Don't fire him KK if there's a disagreement.

 

I hope Rian Johnson does adapt a few characters into this new trilogy saga. When you hear its going away from the Skywalker saga. does that mean the whole trilogies? all the characters now wont be in his new vision? or is it justSkywalker in general? i feel as a fan, RJ can extend SW lore with characters in the trilogies. Is it an entire relm in the SW? I dont know how i would react to it. i figure other fans are things the same way. i would like to see Ahsoka in this new trilogy, see where the Rebels can go. I just found out that Jedha wasnt totally blow up. or is it just a brand new SW saga. I guess a new story is good for how its evolve but i guess im still in this realm of SW. what yall think...

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I felt that KK didnt want him to do Ep. IX cause of what his vision was for the last 2 episodes, KK and Disney decided to keep RJ and giving him the green light to produce a new SW story. its crazy to say there is another story and if they will connect the two sagas somehow but being attached to the saga now good to get another story? seems tough. Im not really a fan of R1 and the upcoming Solo film but thats how im treating RJ future films. im sure its gonna be great and RJ will take alot of knowledge from GL, hes basically creating another SW. I know im going to watch it and love it. how about yall...

 

I don't know. Sounds a bit like Star Trek: "This planet quickly modernises and builds the first star ship and tye early Jedi begin to explore the galaxy."