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Rian Johnson's Trilogy

Discussion in 'Rian Johnson's New Trilogy' started by TheBBP, Jan 18, 2018.

  1. Darth Garth

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    I think I found the new theme!



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    So it looks like Disney has looked at the box office performance of Solo and decided to halt the breaks on the spin-off stories. That kind of makes sense based on the general audience reaction to Solo and the apparently lack of enthusiasm from fans in the run up to Solo.

    However, it appears the main priority is Episode IX and the next trilogy which appears to be Rian Johnson's films.



    Disney has looked at the numbers and if they believed RJ was a problem he'd likely be out. It seems like the big takeaway here is Disney wants people to direct these films who have proven they can work on time and on budget. So I doubt will see many more risk choices by Lucasfilm. I also get the sense that RJ isn't working completely by himself on this new trilogy. I can't wait to find out what they're working on for this trilogy.
     
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    it kinda makes sense, but at the same time it kinda mostly doesn't. Trailers determine so much of moviegoers enthusiasm or lack thereof, and when the first trailer came out, people mostly complained that Ehrenreich did not at all resemble Harrison Ford. That's pretty much it. People talking about boycotts on youtube, or Star Wars fatigue I think value fringe opinions too highly. It was a simple process of A)Trailer looked bad, therefore B) Lack of enthusiasm.

    Add to that that the movie would have made money if not for reshoots, then why would their conclusion be that all non-trilogy films need to be scrapped? If anything, it just means they need to make sure to not re-cast old characters and make sure they get the trailer right. That second part should be a no brainer, because Solo is hardly the first movie to be terribly harmed by a bad trailer, and it won't be the last.

    So if anything, this should have told them that an Obi-Won film starring Ewan McGregor would be a safe film to make that people wouldn't hate.
     
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    I had a general lack of enthusiasm since the film was announced. I liked both trailers and the film was decent. It's far from a disaster so that's the good thing about all of this stuff. If you're gonna sell Solo to people it might make sense to show Solo. They didn't show him until the final trailer a few weeks before the film.
    In theory Kenobi seems like the most obvious choice, but it might just be a problem of story. Has anyone ever pitched story that would work? Disney knows that people love Kenobi, but ultimately someone has to have a story that makes sense.
     
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    they might have been hedging, fearful that people would reject him.
    what's most disappointing is that word of mouth did not save this despite being fairly positive.

    i know so many people who have asked me if i've seen it (as if i wouldn't have), and then proceeded to say: yeah, maybe i'll go.
    i think there just wasn't a sufficient hook for the general audience.
    it may tell us something about how small the "dedicated" fanbase really is comparatively speaking.

    makes you wonder what kind of rabbit Johnson's gotta pull out of his hat to sell a completely new trilogy on its own merits.
     
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    I know several Star Wars fans who loved TLJ who still haven't seen Solo. If they're not excited about seeing the film what hope is there the general audience is excited?
     
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    I agree a Kenobi film might be more difficult than it seems. This is how I would do it:

    Using flashbacks to different parts of his life, showing different era's in the GFFA. Pre-TPM, Clone Wars, post-RotS.
    These scenes will have bookends of his present i.e. on Tatooine, showing his mundane hermit life. Maybe using these scenes to further explore the Force: becoming a Force ghost.
    Or using these bookends retooling (not retconning) Maul's search for Kenobi, ending with their short, but beautiful duel. That last scene of him seeing young Luke running of in the distance is killer.
     
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    Prequels are such a difficult challenge. There's not many good examples of them working well. People know Obi-Wan's story and how it ends. Rogue One worked in its way because it was bunch of new characters. It was less of a prequel than Solo.
     
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    Rian Johnson trilogy stinks ...if you take 100% satisfaction test mine is not even +2% approval (98% in negative) holy...!!!
     
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    Wow, you have seen it already! That's cool bro....
     
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    Do we have any idea what era this trilogy will be about?
     
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    I still remain doubtful LFL will go ahead with this trilogy.
     
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    No, we know next to nothing yet. There has been some vague hints that RJ wants to do something completely different, with new characters, conflicts, and places, but at the same time he has not ruled out cameos of people and location we've already seen. Basically though, we know nothing yet :)

    This thing is gonna be so awesome! :D
     
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    If they want to stray from the established SW environment, I guess they will go other places timewise, either after TLJ or way before TPM. I think making just a change in location is hard to do when you want to exclud known things like the Empire/Republic, leaving wild space and the unknown regions for it.

    When Rian thinks new stuff, I guess he won’t bother himself with the old republic era as he would have to inherit stuff like this Jedi/Sith.

    But on the other hand… I mean, c’mon: The Sith Empire, The Scourge of Malachor, Moraband, the Mandalorian-Jedi Wars, etc. I would love to explore the “Dark Ages” period of Star Wars history.

    Ancient Magick like the one from the night sisters, cross guard lightsabers, Sith artifacts and machines like device on Malachor. The Sith Empire ruling the Galaxy, Old Republic forces and the Jedi on the run, Coruscant being held by the Sith and re-captured by the Jedi… Intrigues between houses and fractions, Sith turning Jedi to the dark side.

    We would be able to see some old tech of the SW universe still in use: Think of the goodies in Luke’s hut from TLJ like the star compass. New stories, but from the dawn of time of the SW galaxy, where everything was bigger. Think War Rancor’s like in the Punic Wars.

    Ah, a man can dream…

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    it's a beautiful dream ;)

    I don't think 'backwards' will work for RJ. he would still be restricted and mocked by those out there that think they own Star Wars.
    he needs to leap forward by a few thousand years and to a different part of the galaxy. his style, his story, his characters.. his canon.

    i don't know, but he's received so much hate - i'd almost advise him to stick his middle finger up at Star Wars and walk away. not sure we deserve him.
     
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    And let the haters win?
     
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    i'd usually say 'no of course not', and if it was me then i'd ignore it all and make whatever the hell i wanted to make.

    if the hate (and i suspect it has) has reached his family and friends.. then i would advise him to blow off any more work with LF.

    anonymous hate is not the same as regular bullying.. you can stand up to a physical bully and look him/her in the eyes.
    these 'things' out there that write awful.. toxic messages under the protective anonymous umbrella that facebook/twitter etc provide are nothing short of animals. there's no stopping them.

    the internet is 'Skynet' to me. i'd go back 30 years and stop it all happening if i could lol

    in saying all of that.. i'd dearly love him to make a new trilogy. :D
     
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    Right!
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    Let the Wookie win!
     
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    I think Lucasfilm/Disney should just let him do it. Just to be clear: if you hated TLJ that's fine. I'm referring to the people that call him "Ruin" or attack him on Twitter; especially on posts not even related to Star Wars. There is a difference between hating a movie and being a jerk about it.
     
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    We wouldn't have crazy cat videos and or stupid videos of people getting hurt. :D Then again, we wouldn't have Justin Beiber if there was no internet.
     
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