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SPECULATION Robert Lindell's Character

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Duck Duck Goose, Apr 28, 2015.

  1. Duck Duck Goose

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    I didn't see a thread for his character, but I think he may deserve one.

    Lizo Mzimba from BBC reported that several new characters were appearing in TFA. A link from the news section of this site be found here:

    http://www.starwars7news.com/2015/04/several-new-faces-from-the-force-awakens-cast.html

    One of those new characters is a Sith General played by Robert Lindell.

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    It seems that he occupies the role reported by THR as a:

    "Forty something male, fit, military type". The news site link is:

    http://www.starwars7news.com/2013/11/episode-7-producers-looking-for-mid.html

    To get the conversation started, the first thing that popped in my mind was that Lindell was merely one of several Generals, which also include Gleeson.

    However, after some more thinking, there is another drastic possibility. What if he is playing the character previously thought to be played by Domhnall Gleeson? If he is indeed playing what we thought was Gleeson's role, then that means we know much less about Domhnall Gleeson's character than we previously thought.

    What are your thoughts on Lindell's character?
     
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    I still think Gleeson is Luke or Leia's Son.
     
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    I think with how late and backdoory this news came out he's more of a cameo role like the other commanders from Episode IV

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    I'm having an issue with Gleeson playing a "General" because of his age. As a military guy, it isn't believable to me.

    Yep, gotta side with you there...likely a scenario like that OR a few short scenes.
     
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    I like that the name specifies a "Sith" general, implying that the Sith philosophy may play a more central role in the First Order than it did in the Empire.
     
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    Perhaps yes, hence the necessary renaming of the "Empire" to the "First Order"....different management. :)
     
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    Honestly, I'm a little suspicious of the word "Sith" being included in his character description. I wonder if the actor, or his agent, took some liberties there. Perhaps by "Sith" they meant "bad guy," and by "bad guy" they meant "Imperial" (now First Order). To me, "Forty something male, fit, military type" would be a very odd description of a Sith, and better fits the description of a ranking officer in the military. Just based upon the brief glimpse we see of the First Order in the latest trailer, we know we'll see at least several such officers on screen.
     
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    You may have something there. I think I'm a little suspicious of "Sith" also as it's too...forward.
     
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    What if, say, the majority of their high ranking officials were wiped out. the desperate remnants of the empire on the run are forced to promote from what they have left. From that a young, vicious, and cunning young officer climbs through the ranks with great ambition winning battle after battle as he helps turn the new First order into a force to be reckoned with.
     
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    Ok, "advancement by default or attrition" could be a possibility.
     
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    Yeah, I'm just saying. If Gleeson is the general, there's likely a story there. Even if it isn't explicitly stated in TFA, I'm sure it will be eventually.
     
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    Napoleon was only 30 when he was part of the French Consulate in 1799, only 35 when he became Emperor.

    I know the imagery is very much fascist or Nazi-like, but I do recall something going around about Gleeson as playing a "Napoleon-like character". Gleeson is 31 so all this wouldn't be too unbelievable, if it's true.
     
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    This is true. My issue is that this a galaxy wide military machine that.....well wait a minute; Ok, ok....I was envisioning him as like a military wide commander, but perhaps he's the "2 Star General" of say...a brutal ground division and he's notorious for his tactics. I just don't think he's like a "Grand Moff" or anything like that.
     
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    I'm thinking it's something like that. Perhaps a lower-ranking official with charisma who managed to get his men to commit to a coup or so, like Ghadafi... who I think was also in his very late 20s/early 30s when he took power now that I think of it.

    I'd say it has to do more with the Empire having suffered the massive defeat and all the holdout areas being in a weakened state of turmoil. Makes it easy for someone with the ambition to seize power.
     
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    Agreed... this seems more of a case of... "oh you know what I mean... one of those bad guys."
     
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    Well then perhaps Rey and Ren are twins even though age difference... Chuckle
     
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    I just finished reading a summary of the rumors from MSW found on TFN:

    http://boards.theforce.net/threads/current-film-rumors-absolutely-no-discussion.50028227/

    Honestly it doesn't seem that the General has that big of a role in the film. I am really starting to wonder even more if Gleeson doesn't play someone else, especially since the General supposedly dies in the film with what seems like little screen time.

    IIRC, I believe a reason MSW thought that Gleeson was playing the General was partly because Star Wars Underworld reported that Gleeson has a conversation with Uber in the film. However, there are still other options where this could be true. I remember an old rumor that Gleeson may be playing Palpatine in a flashback, and another old rumor that Palpatine would be a force ghost. I wonder if Gleeson is actually playing either of these roles instead. Maybe they would prefer a young Palpatine force ghost for some reason.

    I am not fond of the old Palpatine rumors, but I do want to uncover the story of the movie. I believe all of these characters were rumored to be in a flashback: Luke, Kylo Ren (as a pilot), young Leia, Vader, Rey and Palpatine. At this rate, the vision/flashback could take up half the movie...
     
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    yeah on this list
    • Han Solo
    • (Queen) Leia
    • Luke Skywalker
    • Rey (Kira)
    • Finn
    • Kylo Ren
    • Poe Dameron
    • Rose
    • Chewbacca
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    Sounds likely to me.
    Of course, there are lots of people who have been involved with Star Wars who loved the experience and felt like they were part of something amazing... but I've also read hundreds of interviews with cast and crew who admit they thought they were just making some "crazy sci-fi nonsense" and just didn't "get it" or understand how big it was going to be etc.
    It is not hard to imagine a gigging actor in a minor role - "Ah yes, I've just been busy on that new Star Wars film - what are the bad guys called in those movies? The Sith, yeah, that was it, I was some Sith general or something... one of the bad guys..."

    Also, regarding Gleeson - he is older now that Richard LeParmentier was when he played Admiral Motti...
     
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    The ranks?
    1.Serkis = Uber
    2.Driver = Kylo Ren
    3.Gleeson = The General
    4.Lindell = Star Destroyer Colonel
    5.Christie = Captain Phasma
    6.Extras = Flametroopers
    7.Extras = Snowtroopers
    8.Extras = Stormtroopers
    9.Extras = Evil Castle Tech 01 and another 02
     
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