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SPECULATION Robo-Finn???

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Lazlo, Jan 19, 2016.

  1. Lazlo

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    Mods, please merge with the main Finn thread if appropriate, but I thought this worthy of some independent discussion.

    During another re-watch last night it occurred to me that the wound given to Finn by Kylo was VERY deliberate on the part of the director. The display of the wound, the precision of the strike, all of it.

    The LS wound starts in the lower back and precisely traces the spine to between the shoulder blades.

    This would have clearly paralyzed Finn.

    I've wondered about his extended unconsciousness based upon what at first appeared to be a mostly superficial wound. Finn dropped immediately and never regained consciousness.

    The SW universe is pretty adept with prosthetics, but we don't typically see someone "naturally" recover from very serious wounds.

    So it hit me, Finn is paralyzed, and it is intended as a plot device.

    What a fantastic and ironic story twist. Finn gives up the stormtrooper armor, in a fight with the embodiment of that previous life, he is paralyzed, and will spend the rest of his life in a robotic suit or exoskeleton.

    It's a way of saying that you cannot escape the First Order, or that Finn will always carry his armor with him.
     
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    There was nothing to me that suggested he was paralyzed. It looked like he just got sliced up his back, flesh wound. Im sure it would leave a nasty scar but not sure about much else beyond that.
     
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    While someone requiring a prosthetic appendage of some sort seems to have been a theme to this point, I don't think that's the direction it's going. I tend to agree with @CygnusZero in that it didn't look like the kind of wound that would require prosthetics to overcome. It really did look like a flesh wound.

    With that said, we never really got much information about it. So it was either cut, intentionally left to our imagination, or wasn't so serious that an explanation was needed at the time.
     
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    I would haaaaaate that lol. Oh well, to each their own.
     
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    Absolutely. I have no preference one way or the other. I was just stating my opinion based on my observation of the scene (which I have admittedly only seen once).

    I certainly think it is worthy of discussion.
     
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    Just a bit like with Han frozen in carbonite.
     
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    I agree that at first it looked like a flesh wound, and felt that way the first 3 times I watched it.

    It jumped out at me on the most recent viewing. Probably because it had been bothering me that Finn was out of it instantly, and for so long, over what initially looked minor.

    There was so much thought given to nearly every little detail in the film that it just doesn't feel coincidental right now that his wounds were portrayed so specifically but won't turn out to be meaningful.

    It just seems like there was a reason he was unconscious at the end of the movie, other than changing the impact a bit when Finn and Rey next meet.
     
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    Ooooohhhh, I hadn't made that connection! Now that I think of it, this scene is much like that one. The only real notable difference (outside the obvious) is that in the carbonite scene, leading up to Han going in, they specifically mentioned that they didn't know if someone could survive (Han was the lab rat).

    Great observation!
     
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    I think I just assumed he was sent into a coma because it was still a very serious and traumatic injury, just not sure it was anything to do with slicing his spine up or anything that deep. Who knows though.

    Finn to me is one of the biggest questions going forward. What role is he going to play? Is he just going to be the swashbucking Han Solo type always cracking jokes, or is he going to become a Jedi? We dont even know if there will be a rise of a new jedi order. This story arc might not go that far. It could just be about Luke and Rey being Jedi and thats it.
     
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    Both the script and the novel has this wound occur in the front torso area which would almost always be interpreted as death or near-death. I think the directors wanted to limited such an extreme interpretation of his situation and switched it to the back for that reason. Paralysis is not a default result of every back injury. From what I saw, he got sliced diagonally across the back and for all we know his body could just be working overdrive to heal the damage. Hence the coma, if you allow for some medical argument that comas are also a product of the body going into extreme healing mode.

    There's a lot of story driven potential for this coma and it is a device often used to imply a cocoon/chrysalis for the character...one from which a new character, or something like that will emerge. I'm hopeful that Finn may sense certain things while asleep and wake up with a new drive apart from the drive he had in TFA.
     
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    Force sense or just that now he has something to fight for?
     
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    Heh, for me, the former. Force sense.
     
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    Yeah that could be it. WOuld fit perfectly your cocoon theory. :) I wouldn't mind it if it turned out to be true.
     
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    @BrotherRoyVA

    Just rechecked the novelization.

    Your right that the wound was diagonal across his chest, and later, they say that he was in a medically induced coma.
     
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    I think many are right the change from front to back makes it less of a kill shot. Also the coma being listed as medical means they need him to stay deep under till he heals up a bit.

    It's possible they could add some augmentation to his back. Like something that will let him jack into a light exo skeleton jacket. Would add the the character not restrict him like a power armor suit
     
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    I though it was across his back?
     
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    What a fantastic and ironic story twist. Finn gives up the stormtrooper armor, in a fight with the embodiment of that previous life, he is paralyzed, and will spend the rest of his life in a robotic suit or exoskeleton.

    "He's more machine now than man, twisted and . . . actually a pretty nice guy."
     
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    i liked the OP, but now that i know the novelization has him being cut in the front i am starting to think he won't be augmented coming into Ep 8.

    the weeks coming up to the release of TFA i had Finn pinned down to die at the end duel with Kylo Ren, then i read that he was signed on to Ep 8 already. i think that, not having read that tidbit, i would have been like, "called it! he's dead."

    turns out he's just in a coma! (boba fett) (Boba, in lieu of a carbonite/Han emoji)
     
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    If what you're saying is true then all that would be needed is a simple cybernetic implant as I doubt they'd put something bulky on him since we can pretty much do cybernetic implants on ourselves in our current time period Z
     
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    One other wrinkle is that we know Rian Johnson asked JJ and Kasdan for some rewrites. It could be that Rian specifically asked for the paralyzing back wound so that he could run with that as a character development device for VIII.
     
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