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Rogue One Ending

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by dudebrohomie, Oct 16, 2016.

  1. dudebrohomie

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    I"m hoping they have the nerve to have a tragic ending to R1. Seeing as how we never see the characters later in the series.....I think it would be cool if they do this:

    They (obvi) steal and transmit the plans....then they call for extraction, and no one comes. This could lead to the 'ambiguous' nature of the Rebels and how things can get ugly and expendable in a war zone.

    It would be perfect!! The heroes save the day, but then their 'friends' leave them to fight the bigger war.

    Tragic, classic and would be a really brave move in my opinion.
     
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    I would like to see a dying Galen giving Jyn the plans before she escapes he says ''go, these plans will give the rebellion the hope to fight back'' before he sees the Tantive IV entering lightspeed, Jyn hands over the plans to Princess Leia who says ''they will never be forgotten, heroes are never forgotten''
     
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    I really don't want to see Princess Leia show up in this. With Vader and now Tarkin in there, it's becoming less and less of an actual spin-off.

    I like the OP's idea, have it end on a relative cliffhanger. They get the plans out, but they aren't extracted, and are ultimately forgotten by history (despite the fact that they literally change history). That feels right to me, given who these characters are and how we never hear about them again. Also, that way we can potentially get some more stories about whoever survives (in comic book or novel form).
     
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    I LOVE the idea of 'they are ultimately forgotten by history.' I'm kind of a sucker for that kind of thing. The underdogs do something amazing, but their efforts are somewhat pushed aside by the greater story. The fact that it was a relatively throw-away line in the original crawl only magnifies this in my opinion.

    I think a final scene documenting their final stand would be nice.....the camera pulls out....then credits. We never know what happened. (Until another spin-off movie, book, game, comic shows us exactly what happened because some dolts need everything spelled out). I like a little bit of mystery and tragedy myself.
     
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    I think it would be cool if:

    - Krennic is demoted and sent to some sort of prison for his failures instead of being killed.

    - Galen survives by taking Krennic's place to protect his daughter.

    - Jyn is forced into an exile just like Yoda in order to protect the Rebel Alliance.

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    I'm with you. I dont want to see Princess Leia in this, which we prolly wont. it would be the scene like when Leia puts the message/plans in Artooie. we'll get some cut scene of someone entering a room with Leia then say a few words and leave. I think we might get a voice of her saying something about how much in debt they are to the rebellion.

    I dont know if you watch Rebels but im kinda the same way. I dont want to see an Obi-Wan nor Luke cause it would just ruin the show and they were really meant for Ep. 4. We already seen Leia and a force presence of Yoda. I would like to see Bail Organa and Han/Chewie tho. its more fitting to have Han help them and tell them the story of the 12 parsecs Kessel run.
     
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    The only thing about leaving an ambiguous ending is that Disney will automatically flesh out everything in books and stuff .
     
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    Dont get me wrong with the Novels. I dont really like the novelization of the films but the others are great, Im on Ahsoka right now and LOTS was so in depth about Vaders skills in the darkside of the force. but from the PT and OT and TCW there was so much more details and violence in them. knowing who was killed and showing the actions for it. With Disney its always some sob cut scene and not showing an actual kill besides a blaster gun going off on a trooper or a basic tie fighter/wing explosion. I think thats the downfall of SW films on Disney now. TFA was great but understand why we wouldnt see any scene like that.
     
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    It reall does come down to the blood content with the ratings and since lasers dont have blood happening to them, then tons of people and troopers can die but no actual violence can be shown, especially with Disney. It would be easier in the novels to show ultra violence because it's heard and not seen.
     
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    I agree with this, however for the non-book reading fans, or even just the casual moviegoers, it will be a tragic ending as they wouldn't invest further in the characters after the movie, so what they see is what they get
     
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    There will be no physical handover - Vader says on the Tantive IV that "Several transmissions were beamed to this ship...", so I'd imagine Jyn's stance on the Comms Tower when she is faced off with the TIE will be the denouement. The Rebels not taken out en-route to sending the plans will make a last stand, perhaps with one or two surviving (my guess as per other thread will be injured Andor and perhaps Baze).

    It does sound OTT bloodthirsty for Disney/Lucasfilm, but they could cut away from the final stand rather than showing it as we'd still 'get it' as a viewer and it would fit the war film like grit that keeps being alluded to.
     
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    All the characters survive and will be re-inserted through digital imagery in the original trilogy 4K 3D Ultra-HD edition boxet.
     
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    Our heroes in the Rebellion have infiltrated an Imperial facility and have retrieved the Death Star plans. As they begin their escape, the battle around them is taking a turn for the worse. The Rebel fleet of X-wings and other ships tasked with a diversion attack above the planet is nearly decimated. Jyn's extraction team is taking heavy losses. Rebel ground troops that were supposed to provide cover for Jyn's team to escape have been wiped out along with their U-Wings.

    With no assets to get them off the planet, Cassian and Jyn realize:

    They are not going to survive this mission alive.

    Jyn's small team retreats back into the heart of the Imperial facility. They bunker down a make efforts to set up a Comlink to Rebel Command. After some discussion, the Rebel's only hope is to transmit the Death Star plans to a nearby ship before the Imperials storm their bunker.

    Rebel Command is too far away to receive such a large transmission in the short time left. They inform Cassian that a Rebel sympathizer, Senator Leia Organa, is passing through the system aboard the Tantive IV on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan. It will take several transmissions to transfer the complete Death Star plans and the Imperials will likely pinpoint their location after the first transmission is sent.

    Cassian stays in the communications center and begins transmissions. Jyn, K-2S0, Bodhi, Chirrut, and Baze create a perimeter outside the center to divert attention away from Cassian as he transmits the DS plans.

    There are a series of dramatic shots of our heroes under significant Imperial fire as Imperials descend upon them. Transmission after transmission is slowly making it through until the final transmission, when Imperials blow through the doors to the Com Center. Cassian swivels his chair around to face Darth Vader as the last transmission is almost complete behind him.

    The scene cuts to Rebel Command on Dantooine.

    Bail Organa announces: "The transmissions are complete!!"

    The Command Center breaks into cheers!

    Then, Mon Monthma opens a Comlink: "Captain Cassian. Captain Cassian. The transmissions are complete. Do you copy?"

    No response....

    All we hear is the breathing of Darth Vader over the Comlink.

    The transmission cuts off abruptly.

    The scene cuts back to the Imperial facility. Vader is exiting the room where Cassian had been transmitting the DS plans.

    An Imperial officer approaches: "Lord Vader, there were several transmissions made to a nearby ship. It is registered to an Imperial Senator -- Princess Leia of Alderaan."

    Vader: "Ready my Star Destroyer. I shall take care of her myself."
     
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    This is nearly perfect. I might only add that the R1 team doesn't know that the plans got transmitted completely. Double tragedy in that (a.) they die, and (b.) they don't even know if their effort was successful.

    THAT would be SUCH a brave move for Disney (who I love) and something for the audience to really tackle on the drive home. I love the idea.
     
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    Sort of like Toy Story 3 and the lava pit except the movie ends with the plans transmitted and they accept their fate and the last shot being the opening of ANH .
     
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    I like it. I don't think we need too much tragedy, but definitely enough to think about. The beamed transmission part is correct. And Vader knows about it specifically, so consider that.
     
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    remember, at the end of the day, sw is a soap opera so there needs to be drama but optimism is a must.
     
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    "It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire. During the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire’s ultimate weapon, the DEATH STAR, an armored space station with enough power to destroy an entire planet.

    Pursued by the Empire’s sinister agents, Princess Leia races home aboard her starship, custodian of the stolen plans that can save her people and restore freedom to the galaxy…."


    Vader: She must have hidden the plans in the escape pod. Send a detachment down to retrieve them; see to it personally, Commander. There'll be no one to stop us this time!

    Rogue One is going to be a war movie and there will be casualties on both sides for sure. However, the bolded text above demonstrates that the Rebellion actually won the battle that we see in R1 and Vader and the Empire were thwarted in some fashion. There my be heavy Rebel casualties but there will need to be some sense of a victory for the Rebellion at the end of the movie. A bittersweet victory where much is lost but also where much has been gained is the best way to end it.
     
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    Whatever they die or not there will be no Rogue 2 so their story ends up there whaterver their fate is.
     
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    Lucasfilm always did. The EU covered basically everything, and no doubt the new "canon" will, too.
     
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