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Rogue One reshoot?

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Kript, May 31, 2016.

  1. Pomojema

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    Here's the thing - the Han Solo movie is not explicitly set immediately before the events of A New Hope, and I don't suspect that we'll be getting a cameo in this movie, either. At his current age, Alden Ehrenreich is 10 years younger than Harrison Ford was, which would mean that the film would be best set before the events of Rebels. (Basically, he's currently too young to play the Han Solo that we're introduced to.)

    Furthermore, being involved in the Rebellion was never Han's fight until he thought "screw it" decided to go back to save Luke Skywalker at the opportune moment. Aside from that, he just happened to be a lowlife in the right place at the right time. Making him a part of the theft of the Death Star plans - even tangentially - would completely undermine his role in the saga and would be a case of "Darth Vader built C-3PO" all over again.

    Also, remember that just because someone is cast early doesn't mean that they're going to make a cameo in something. Felicity Jones was hired in March of 2015, and filming on the movie didn't begin until August of the same year. We sure as heck didn't get a gratuitous Jyn Erso cameo in The Force Awakens, even though they could have easily filmed one at that point. (The gap between Alden Ehrenreich's unofficial casting and the start date for the filming of the movie is longer, but still.)
     
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    Which is why I think it's going to be an origin story. I'm curious if they'll keep the origin that he was an Imperial cadet.
     
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    Chewie's origin is essentially kept the same from what we know about the new canon, so I think it's very likely that this will be a component of the film.
     
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    You're exactly right unfortunately. Disney can't handle releasing a "war" movie to the public. All the Disney execs have a 3 foot stick up their ass and can't handle a movie like that. Instead of seeing the scene with the imperial walkers from the trailer, it's going to be replaced with stupid droid humor.
     
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    People, Disney owned Miramax and Dimension Films, just as it now owns Lucasfilm and logos of these companies appeared in front of their movies (not Disney's logo) as was the case with TFA. Miramax (and therefore Disney) released movies like Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, Heavenly Creatures, Trainspotting and Full Frontal. Dimension films released Scream series, Sin City and Bad Santa among others. All R rated. All of them. I could also mention Touchstone Pictures but I am too lazy.

    Now tell me again how they cannot handle a PG 13 war film.
     
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    See, I think that the difference is that Disney has more than a helping hand in the creation of the star wars movies as its the difference in owning these smaller companies to increase their portfolio versus spending $4B+ on a single movie franchise so Disney being directly involved with an R-rated movie wouldn't seem so great for a kid-friendly franchise.
     
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    Disney owns Touchstone too ~ which makes rated R films.
     
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    But Star Wars was never going to be R. Ever. (Well, maybe in 50 - 60 years when we all perish. ) Anyone who believed that at any point in time was deluding themselves. Some people even lost their mind because TFA was PG13 and not PG.

    You can still push PG13 hard and make a great, darker, war movie. I wish people gave me one example of a movie being Disney-fied that they always mention. Some dark, adult story that after Disney treatment became Zootopia.
     
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    Yeah but it's not like any of the touchstones movies that I know of are a tentpole and have much a presence in the sense that SW does for Disney
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    Could we come back to the point when LFL employees complained about Disney's influence? That is something that would actually support that theory much more then some anxious fanboys and their biased thinking about how things are behind the curtain.
     
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    When did they complain ?
     
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    Right..never.

    There is this quote from JJ, that they don't try to influence and disneyfy. and there is this.

     
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    Totally agree with you on that. Even if RO would be darker in tone, I doubt it was never even intended to have it shot as a R-rated movie. (Edit.) PG-13, sure. Harry Potter and Hunger Games have proven that you can have PG-13 rated movies and still be highly successful in reaching out to younger audiences.

    Cinderella by Lotte Reiniger vs. Disney? ;)
    (Some of the parts are really gruesome, especially when the sister cuts off her heel)
     
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    That's Grimm brothers for you. Imagine if Ariel died in Little Mermaid and turned into sea foam like in the original.
     
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    Ehrenreich is 26 years old and will be 27 in November. Despite Harrison Ford being 34 years old when "A NEW HOPE" was shot, he was portraying a character who was at least 29 years old at the time. I don't know if the actor could be considered too young to portray the Han Solo audiences were introduced to in 1977.
     
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    Thus far, Han's age has not been stated in-canon, and Hollywood typically casts people who are older than the ages of the characters they're meant to be playing (just look at Luke, who was supposed to be 19 in A New Hope and was played by someone who was 25 at the time).

    At the current rate, I can't imagine the Han Solo movie not being about exploring where the character came from and why that's important to who he is, which is why the idea of a Rogue One cameo seems to be so utterly implausible.
     
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    So Ehrenreich could realistically be playing somebody 19/20 years old. Which is how old I assumed he was going to be.
     
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    Yeah, pretty much. My guess is that he'll be old enough to have piloting experience, but young enough to not be in any real trouble with any major criminal group or the Empire. Probably old enough to drink by whatever standards are held in the GFFA.
     
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    Like Han would even obey the drinking laws anywhere. :D
     
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    (c-3po)But Master Han, the legal age of alcohol in this jurisdiction is 21! (c-3po)
    (han)Never tell me the drinking age!(han)
     
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