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Rogue One Reviews (With Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Viral Hide, Dec 13, 2016.

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    LMFAO we are now complaining about the title which they can fix on the blu-ray. The spoiler filled review that I watched, the critic didn't complain about that. Anywho one more day until I see that awful title. hahaha
     
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    yes it's the planet where galen and the technicians are being held/working
    the rebels go to kill galen but krennic gets there first then the x-wings arrive and start destroying the place i can't remember the planet name as there are loads of new names (new to me)
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    it's not the same as ANH it's more rich and creamy (ANH was quite harsh sounding) it's better than rebels though there was only one line imho that sounded a bit weird i can't remember what it was but i think was maybe a little higher than the usual deep voice! but bader was impressive, most impressive for me :)
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    to me it was as near to perfect as it could be, because we know it's not real we will always see faults in it, if they were to have done it for a new character and not told anyone it's cg i bet they coudl get away with it, but as it's someone we know that can't have been there we see the uncanny valley! that said my mum thought it was made up of old footage with the mouth changed lol so it passed the over 60's test!
    i would say tarkins face was impeccable but they could have gotten a better voice actor for it, he was very good but missed some nuances like the way he says "rrrebils" etc!

    yes it's only one shot and a sentence though
    yes they had stand in actors on set, and i beleive the cushing guy did the acting and voice too it's a MAJOR role so no existing audio it's all new dialogue
    the only point they use existing footage is for our good old friends the red and gold leaders which imho was lovely but compared to tarkin and the advances in film technology you could tell it was from ANH as the grain was visible compared to rest of the movie i may be wrong by grain but something jarred in my head!
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    i don't recall any blood or dismemberments but it's moderately violent lots of troopers get shot in the face/head baze shoots one in the head whilst its on the floor the scene where vader goes fullon vader could be classed as violent but you will be so happy to see it you want it to be 100x more violent! and imho 100x longer
    yup there is no "i rebel" line
    i don't recall that bit either but there may be something like it K2-SO is great btw

    i saw it at IMAX so the whole thing was loud lol awesome sound all round imho from the FX to the music, i didn't pick up on any memorable new themes as such and i liked the use of existing themes, i think in the time he had giacchino did an amazing job, it all fits in and sounds about as williamsesque as it could, he would have been my go to guy as a wiliiams replacement from day 1
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    iirc we get the whole jyn flashback before the title it's just the gold rogue one on a starfield, it doesn't need to be anything else!
     
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    It took me 15 minutes to get in but after that it is a really, really good movie.
     
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    I adored Rogue One.

    I went based on the Collider review. The movie is not perfect. Ok, some very little cheesy dialog is there, a minor scene featuring a CG creature is not at its best...

    BUT: The title is not awful, at all. It's as saying that the SW logo at the beginning of the films is awful, because it's exactly the same but with Rogue One. Ok, maybe the moving stars behind are a bit Star Trek? I don't know, honestly I found it a normal logo entering in the right moment.

    I loved the scope of this film, we haven't seen much in the trailers in fact, and every world they present is visually interesting.

    Overall is visually amazing. It mades you remind that the idea of this film comes from John Knoll and the director is Gareth Edwards, both are masters of the VFX.

    This:

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    I was a bit hesitant, but ok I'm decided: I truly liked they used all McQuarrie design of Vader's castle. Is that Mustafar? it's one of the few planets we don't see the name. Interesting.

    I think Vader has the right screentime, that's why I would not mind a lot about this: his mask looks not as good as the one from Empire or Revenge of the Sith. I know they wanted to emulate the IV one, but it looks like a toy mask somehow. Nonetheless, Vader is awesome in the film and his short but great moment at the end is pure magic.

    The cast was fantastic. Felicity is good, but Diego is outstanding. K2-SO the best "talking droide" to date IMO. The screenplay helps: the characters are well written and are solid.

    The greedy tone of the movie: yes, is very dark in terms of the way the rebels act, not just as the good guys but also with some gray tones. That said, this is not Save Private Ryan. Lasers are lasers, and the greediest thing in the film is Vader's shot when the bacta tank "turns off' (too short of a shot I'd say!). I'm not saying this a s a negative thing. I didn't have the need of blood or the film being visually more explicit, because the film is brave portraying our nowadays world. I won't go further on this because I don't want this to become a politic thread, but they go as far as giving Saw Guerrera a respiration problem as Vader has. Rather than dark, this film is gray.

    The music is very good. Yes, it is! I thought it wouldn't. I don't like re-dos on Williams work, and for instance I really don't like Jurassic World work by Giaccino. But this is different. The guy did this in one month and I don't even need to put that in my argument. He measured really well the use of leith-motivs, and is so respectful on Williams that when he presents Vader he uses Episode IV theme at first, to then switch to the imperial march that was heard first time in Episode V. It's true that in some situations you heard melodies that remind you to something and then they don't evolve in the direction your ears are wishing, but out of that I would say: if we leave Rey's theme a part, Rogue One soundtrack is as good as The Force Awakens soundtrack.

    Tarkin is absolutely awesome. In his first scene I wasn't able to see if he was CG or an actor with make up. The only thing I was seeing was Tarkin himself. Then you kinda see is CG but I'm not bother, this is the best human performance in CG that I've ever seen. I was expecting Leia to be CG after Tarkin so you see it too, but that final shot, that final word is so perfect that I don't even care.

    This film had it all for me: character driven story as episode IV, epic scope as the prequels, brave director, fan service when needed, nowadays global issues adding up and completing the Star Wars universe. Everything was there, that's why I don't care about things like Jyn and Cassian magically appearing in the beach to make their romantic ending more beautiful, or Felicity trying too hard when watching his dad's hologram. I'm just okay with it, the film has way enough pleasure to forget those things.
     
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    The cloaked figure is the janitor of Vader's castle.
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    Felicity Jones is very very good in her role, she got some emotionnal scenes very well played.

    85% of the trailers shots are not in the movie.
     
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    Can someone give me a rundown for the bacta tank scene?
    When it takes place
    what happens
    what is said?
    Who exactly is the cloaked figure (emissary?)

    Due to circumstances out of my control it will be some time before I can watch this movie. But this scene has me by the short and curlies and as far as being able to wait for it... f#ck that noise.
     
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    It's the introduction of Vader. Happens with the second act well advanced. It's inside a castle based on McQuarrie old design for "Vader Castle". It's in a lava planet, yet most of the planets shown on the film has a on-screen name but not this one.

    The cloaked guy is just a kind of old guardian, really no-one important. It looks as if the shot we see in the teaser is a joke by Gareth Edwards to then reveal he's just a useless character?

    In the tank there's naked vader. You see it a bit blurry by the liquid, then you have a close shot of Anakin's face (but very short). This is it. Krennic visits Vader, this is why he leaves the Bacta tank.
     
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    After Tarkin said Krennic he's now in charge after Jedha City is destroyed.
    Vader gets out of it but you don't really see it completly
    The janitor said Krennic is there to Vader.
    It's the janitor of his castle ( I think ), an old man.
     
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    Does Vader really get a pun in the movie? xD And is it his final line? (Please no! I was hoping James Earl Jones could end his SW tenure with something better than NOOOOO!).
     
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    Haha don't worry. Really I don't get why people are upset with the logo. It's just the logo we have seen but with transparent font and yellow stroke: ergo like the Star Wars title. It looks good.
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    he doesn't have a lot of screentime and he doesn't talk much, but his final moment in the movie will be reminded by his actions rather than his dialog :D
     
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    Does Vader respond to Krennic, "Do you feel in charge?" :p
     
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    Has to be Mustafar. Would make sense since that is where captured force sensitives are taken on Rebels.

    Thanks for all of the info. The more detail, the better.
     
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    The trailers and ads are really well done, because they present scenes that confuse the viewer. The shot of all Rebels running including Jyn and Cassian has no sense in the movie as Jyn and Cassian are no part of the ground battle. Jyn has the Death Star plans when running over the beach so it's really far from a scene that could be part of the film.
     
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    Dammit.. now tell me about the last scene.. LOL
     
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    Actually I would say what makes it different from Mustafar is that is daylight, but thinking about it it's plausible that Mustafar has day and night. What is clear is that they don't want to give you the name of the planet as they do with most of the others.
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    Do you remember Vader getting into the Tantive IV after the Stormtroopers has done the job? Well, in this one Vader gets into a ship and does the job himself, all alone. Poor rebel troops...
     
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    Jyn and Cassian are not on the beach.
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    He said to Krennic to lower his ambitions, Vader has not much lines. It's the story of the Rogue One squad. Vader has two scenes. This one and in the final moments.
     
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    They were on the beach in the posters and trailers, that's what I'm saying. I was waiting for that moment so I knew by the end that I didn't know what was their fate (as you see that the other rebels have all died when they're still in the tower).
     
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    And what if it turns out that this old unknown figure is Snoke? Or is he too small to be Snoke?
     
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    I really don't think so. He's an old creepy janitor.

    There is absolutely nothing in this movie to link with Ep VII.
     
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    That would be at least funny, because the guy is not really presented as an important character. It's weird. The shot it enters (the teaser one but longuer) is beautiful and epic, and long... but then he looks like a Monthy Python cameo (maybe is the effect it does after having high expectetions...)
     
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