1. Notification emails are working properly again. Please check your email spam folder and if you see any emails from the Cantina there, make sure to mark them as "Not Spam". This will help a lot to whitelist the emails and to stop them going to spam.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. IMPORTANT! To be able to create new threads and rate posts, you need to have at least 30 posts in The Cantina.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Before posting a new thread, check the list with similar threads that will appear when you start typing the thread's title.
    Dismiss Notice

Rogue One Score

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Lock_S_Foils, May 14, 2017.

  1. Lock_S_Foils

    Lock_S_Foils Red Leader

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Posts:
    1,932
    Likes Received:
    52,424
    Trophy Points:
    169,407
    Credits:
    36,078
    Ratings:
    +55,329 / 37 / -37
    Ok found some old threads about the score.....what did everyone think about it? I have heard some negative things......personally I loved it. Would have loved even more to have an opening crawl with the theme that played when the R1 title shows. But anyway my favorite themes were the arrival of Krennic at Scarif (just epic and powerful) and also the theme that plays during the death of Jyn/Cassian on the beach. Of course the whole ending theme from Vader through to the tantive 4 launch was great too.....
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
  2. Nathan_Marrek

    Nathan_Marrek Force Attuned

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2016
    Posts:
    631
    Likes Received:
    7,981
    Trophy Points:
    16,117
    Credits:
    6,491
    Ratings:
    +8,282 / 5 / -3
    I love it. Especially Your father would have been proud, Hope and Jyn Erso suite and end credits
     
    • Like Like x 3
  3. tm0910196

    tm0910196 Guest

    Credits:
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Really liked it. It was especially impressive considering Giacchino wrote all of it in a mere 4 weeks. The whole thing sounded appropriately "Star Wars-ish" throughout with respect to instrumentation and orchestration. The music when the X-wings attacked the imperial base on Eadu sounded like something John Williams could have written. The Krennic theme and the new Imperial theme sounded completely at home in the galaxy far, far away.

    I also loved how it brought back two little tunes we hadn't heard since A New Hope, the tune for the imperials and the four-note theme for the Death Star. The first one played twice during Vader's first scene, particularly when it zoomed on the Bacta Tank, and the second played twice in the first scene with Tarkin, when it showed the Death Star.

    I also really liked that Giacchino did indeed use the imperial march, not once, not twice, but four times for Vader when he was onscreen. I had heard some people say it shouldn't be in there, because it wasn't in A New Hope, but heck! It was in the prequels, so why not?

    The whole finale with "Your Father Would be Proud" is super emotional for me. I also felt pretty emotional during Galen's hologram message scene, which the music certainly did a lot for.
     
    • Great Post Great Post x 3
    • Like Like x 1
  4. B99

    B99 Rebel General

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2015
    Posts:
    391
    Likes Received:
    666
    Trophy Points:
    4,272
    Credits:
    1,040
    Ratings:
    +912 / 7 / -3
    Loved the film!! One of my fav SW films!! It was an emotional rolla coaster ride till the very end!
     
    • Great Post Great Post x 3
  5. Josh

    Josh Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2017
    Posts:
    488
    Likes Received:
    2,257
    Trophy Points:
    8,067
    Credits:
    3,853
    Ratings:
    +2,825 / 19 / -11
    For having 4 Weeks, to compose a whole Soundtrack, michael giacchino did an amazing job.

    One question:

    this sounds completely different , can it be that this might be a track from alexandre desplats score ?
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
  6. Pawek_13

    Pawek_13 Jedi General

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2016
    Posts:
    3,384
    Likes Received:
    15,591
    Trophy Points:
    144,707
    Credits:
    13,979
    Ratings:
    +20,475 / 71 / -32
    This music was most likely outsorced or composed specifically for the trailer.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  7. RoyleRancor

    RoyleRancor Jedi General

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2016
    Posts:
    4,857
    Likes Received:
    26,821
    Trophy Points:
    150,667
    Credits:
    20,293
    Ratings:
    +34,157 / 136 / -93
    Yep. Very common thing to happen for trailers.
    Much like in the TLJ trailer much of it was mixed by an outside company specifically for it.
     
  8. Nathan_Marrek

    Nathan_Marrek Force Attuned

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2016
    Posts:
    631
    Likes Received:
    7,981
    Trophy Points:
    16,117
    Credits:
    6,491
    Ratings:
    +8,282 / 5 / -3
    Time to watch RO again... *turns on TV/Blu-rey player and pops in the disc*
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Great Post Great Post x 2
  9. Lock_S_Foils

    Lock_S_Foils Red Leader

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Posts:
    1,932
    Likes Received:
    52,424
    Trophy Points:
    169,407
    Credits:
    36,078
    Ratings:
    +55,329 / 37 / -37
    @Nathan_Koren I like the way you think!
     
    • Like Like x 2
  10. andrea.conti.91

    andrea.conti.91 Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2016
    Posts:
    200
    Likes Received:
    312
    Trophy Points:
    1,352
    Credits:
    616
    Ratings:
    +502 / 7 / -3
    Surely the OST is good. But it lacks of a strong theme for the good guys. Krennic has a very good theme, so the Empire. But Jyn's theme is very banal, and Chirrut's is a variation on Across the stars. I was surprised by the SWness of the whole soundtrack, but not deeply impressed. The distance from Williams is evident.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. The Hud

    The Hud Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2016
    Posts:
    646
    Likes Received:
    4,195
    Trophy Points:
    13,077
    Credits:
    5,299
    Ratings:
    +4,849 / 3 / -3
    I think it's great, lots and lots of little nuances and motifs stashed throughout, and mixes of existing themes (see SW Fanfare and the Rogue One title card music)

    For a man who only had a few weeks to do his homework, Giacchino did a marvellous job
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
  12. NotQyteNeo

    NotQyteNeo Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2016
    Posts:
    508
    Likes Received:
    4,620
    Trophy Points:
    12,992
    Credits:
    4,274
    Ratings:
    +5,020 / 14 / -2
    Agreed. I debated someone about this very argument about the Imperial March not being in ANH. For me, you couldn't have the start of a Imperial troopers scene without the march. Regardless of whether it was in ANH or not, it has stuck with the Empire ever since. And - IMO - you can't go backwards. The 2 have been "married". You essentially can't have one without the other.

    Other thought: Desplat had repeatedly said he had no intention of using any of JW's themes for RO. I think they said scheduling was the reason he had to drop scoring RO. But I honestly suspect it was that the film-makers did want to use JW's themes.

    Giacchino did a stellar job in such short time. But using JW's themes as much as he did is probably what made doing it in 4 weeks possible. That said, it still was a tremendous job on his part.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
  13. Pawek_13

    Pawek_13 Jedi General

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2016
    Posts:
    3,384
    Likes Received:
    15,591
    Trophy Points:
    144,707
    Credits:
    13,979
    Ratings:
    +20,475 / 71 / -32
    I don't think that was also the reason why he dropped. Giacchino's score is very light on references of JW's score - there are a couple, like the Imperial March, the Imperial theme from ANH and the ending fanfare but really, nothing except that.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  14. GetGuden

    GetGuden Clone

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2017
    Posts:
    13
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    12
    Credits:
    148
    Ratings:
    +34 / 0 / -0
    I hate to say it but I honestly think Desplat would have been better for it. I know Giacchino was rushed, and while I think a few themes stood out, I can't remember a single theme from the movie. TFA was sort of hard at first, but I grew to like it. I just don't foresee the same thing happening for Rogue One.
     
  15. Trev

    Trev Rebel General

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2017
    Posts:
    500
    Likes Received:
    951
    Trophy Points:
    3,992
    Credits:
    1,286
    Ratings:
    +1,242 / 3 / -0
    I thought Michael Giacchino did an amazing job with this score overall. Being a part of Star Wars in any way is surely overwhelming for someone, especially when you're in charge of the music for the first Anthology film and trying to live up to the legacy that John Williams has created. I like that he incorporated some of the older themes into this score when appropriate, and overall, I thought he captured the emotional aspect of the film really well with this score—and I'm shocked that he wrote it in just four weeks. :eek:

    I'm a bit disappointed that there wasn't an extended version of "Hope" on the album, though, to be honest. I think that song is my most-played Star Wars song on iTunes—it's just SO epic. He really did an amazing job there.

    He's no John Williams, but given the circumstances, I think he did an amazing job. This is a really great soundtrack.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
  16. DEKKA129

    DEKKA129 Professional Slinger of Balderdash
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2014
    Posts:
    723
    Likes Received:
    1,403
    Trophy Points:
    8,249
    Credits:
    2,314
    Ratings:
    +2,216 / 24 / -4
    Just watched Rogue One again on Netflix, and it continues to be one of my favorite SW films of all. At first, when the movie was released, I was completely underwhelmed by Giacchino's score. And now, although I still find most of the score to be inoffensive but rather forgettable, there are a few moments that really work for me.

    Perhaps the most powerful of these is Jyn's theme playing as the fireball on Scarif takes her and Cassian, then continuing on as the Rebels race to copy the plans and reach the Princess' blockade runner before... HE happens. :cool: And then after the slash-fest, there's that last scene with the old-school Rebel theme just as it sounds just before the stormtrooper attack at the beginning of ANH, complete with the exact same red-alert klaxon. The bridge from the Rogue One soundscape to the ANH soundscape in that scene is, IMHO, a minor act of genius.

    That, and the little flute trill from the pan down just after the opening crawl in ANH is sort of inverted and used during the pan up at the beginning of Rogue One. Had that been preceded by the normal SW theme and crawl, it would have bookended the film perfectly, along with the five minutes or so at the end of the film.
     
    • Great Post Great Post x 3
    • Like Like x 1
  17. RoyleRancor

    RoyleRancor Jedi General

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2016
    Posts:
    4,857
    Likes Received:
    26,821
    Trophy Points:
    150,667
    Credits:
    20,293
    Ratings:
    +34,157 / 136 / -93
    Jyn Erso and Hope Suite is one of my favorite Star Wars themes and I think it will forever be critically underrated because it's Star Wars and not John Williams.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
  18. tm0910196

    tm0910196 Guest

    Credits:
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    You're right, he's no John Williams, because no one is! At the same time, though, I always find it ironic when people (not you) say, "Oh, Giacchino's never gonna be John Williams; his music isn't as memorable," etc... Because honestly, I can't think of a more Williams-esque composer in Hollywood at the moment. Giacchino is capable of absolutely nailing the Williams style, even if his new tunes aren't as memorable. But the instrumentation choices and overall sound connect very naturally with what Williams has been doing with the franchise.

    The Krennic theme sounds like it's in the same family as "March of the Resistance," for example. And when the theme plays behind Krennic's arrival on Scarif, there's this one little blast of brass at one point that sounds straight out of the General Grievous theme. The music when the X-Wings attack Eadu is another example, where Giacchino uses some quick little brass flourishes, and it sounds just like something Williams would have done with the scene.

    I truly think that, if Lucasfilm really didn't want the music veering away too much from the formula, Giacchino was the most intelligent choice. Plus, the man knows his Star Wars and has admitted that he wrote the whole score with little obscure nods to other themes and elements throughout the franchise.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
  19. Trev

    Trev Rebel General

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2017
    Posts:
    500
    Likes Received:
    951
    Trophy Points:
    3,992
    Credits:
    1,286
    Ratings:
    +1,242 / 3 / -0
    I agree 100%. There's only one John Williams, and I think Giacchino did a really great job paying homage to the music of Star Wars that John Williams has already created and also incorporating his own original style into it. The music may not be as memorable, but at the same time, Rogue One is in a completely different league than the rest of the Star Wars films anyways. If there was a film to try something different, this was it. They did it and it worked (both for the film and the score). I really think he did a fantastic job with it, and I'd be really happy if he came back to do the scores for future Anthology films, to be honest!
     
    • Great Post Great Post x 2
  20. DEKKA129

    DEKKA129 Professional Slinger of Balderdash
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2014
    Posts:
    723
    Likes Received:
    1,403
    Trophy Points:
    8,249
    Credits:
    2,314
    Ratings:
    +2,216 / 24 / -4
    Honestly, I think it stands proudly and solidly alongside the very best films of the SW series to date. I've never bought the notion that Rogue One needs to be considered as something separate from the numbered "saga" films. It's all part of the same story, and IMHO it works perfectly in that regard.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
    • Wise Wise x 1
Loading...

Share This Page