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Rogue One Score

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Lock_S_Foils, May 14, 2017.

  1. Lock_S_Foils

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    Ok found some old threads about the score.....what did everyone think about it? I have heard some negative things......personally I loved it. Would have loved even more to have an opening crawl with the theme that played when the R1 title shows. But anyway my favorite themes were the arrival of Krennic at Scarif (just epic and powerful) and also the theme that plays during the death of Jyn/Cassian on the beach. Of course the whole ending theme from Vader through to the tantive 4 launch was great too.....
     
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    I love it. Especially Your father would have been proud, Hope and Jyn Erso suite and end credits
     
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    Really liked it. It was especially impressive considering Giacchino wrote all of it in a mere 4 weeks. The whole thing sounded appropriately "Star Wars-ish" throughout with respect to instrumentation and orchestration. The music when the X-wings attacked the imperial base on Eadu sounded like something John Williams could have written. The Krennic theme and the new Imperial theme sounded completely at home in the galaxy far, far away.

    I also loved how it brought back two little tunes we hadn't heard since A New Hope, the tune for the imperials and the four-note theme for the Death Star. The first one played twice during Vader's first scene, particularly when it zoomed on the Bacta Tank, and the second played twice in the first scene with Tarkin, when it showed the Death Star.

    I also really liked that Giacchino did indeed use the imperial march, not once, not twice, but four times for Vader when he was onscreen. I had heard some people say it shouldn't be in there, because it wasn't in A New Hope, but heck! It was in the prequels, so why not?

    The whole finale with "Your Father Would be Proud" is super emotional for me. I also felt pretty emotional during Galen's hologram message scene, which the music certainly did a lot for.
     
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    Loved the film!! One of my fav SW films!! It was an emotional rolla coaster ride till the very end!
     
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    For having 4 Weeks, to compose a whole Soundtrack, michael giacchino did an amazing job.

    One question:

    this sounds completely different , can it be that this might be a track from alexandre desplats score ?
     
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    This music was most likely outsorced or composed specifically for the trailer.
     
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    Yep. Very common thing to happen for trailers.
    Much like in the TLJ trailer much of it was mixed by an outside company specifically for it.
     
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    Time to watch RO again... *turns on TV/Blu-rey player and pops in the disc*
     
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    @Nathan_Koren I like the way you think!
     
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    Surely the OST is good. But it lacks of a strong theme for the good guys. Krennic has a very good theme, so the Empire. But Jyn's theme is very banal, and Chirrut's is a variation on Across the stars. I was surprised by the SWness of the whole soundtrack, but not deeply impressed. The distance from Williams is evident.
     
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    I think it's great, lots and lots of little nuances and motifs stashed throughout, and mixes of existing themes (see SW Fanfare and the Rogue One title card music)

    For a man who only had a few weeks to do his homework, Giacchino did a marvellous job
     
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    Agreed. I debated someone about this very argument about the Imperial March not being in ANH. For me, you couldn't have the start of a Imperial troopers scene without the march. Regardless of whether it was in ANH or not, it has stuck with the Empire ever since. And - IMO - you can't go backwards. The 2 have been "married". You essentially can't have one without the other.

    Other thought: Desplat had repeatedly said he had no intention of using any of JW's themes for RO. I think they said scheduling was the reason he had to drop scoring RO. But I honestly suspect it was that the film-makers did want to use JW's themes.

    Giacchino did a stellar job in such short time. But using JW's themes as much as he did is probably what made doing it in 4 weeks possible. That said, it still was a tremendous job on his part.
     
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    I don't think that was also the reason why he dropped. Giacchino's score is very light on references of JW's score - there are a couple, like the Imperial March, the Imperial theme from ANH and the ending fanfare but really, nothing except that.
     
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    I hate to say it but I honestly think Desplat would have been better for it. I know Giacchino was rushed, and while I think a few themes stood out, I can't remember a single theme from the movie. TFA was sort of hard at first, but I grew to like it. I just don't foresee the same thing happening for Rogue One.
     
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    I thought Michael Giacchino did an amazing job with this score overall. Being a part of Star Wars in any way is surely overwhelming for someone, especially when you're in charge of the music for the first Anthology film and trying to live up to the legacy that John Williams has created. I like that he incorporated some of the older themes into this score when appropriate, and overall, I thought he captured the emotional aspect of the film really well with this score—and I'm shocked that he wrote it in just four weeks. :eek:

    I'm a bit disappointed that there wasn't an extended version of "Hope" on the album, though, to be honest. I think that song is my most-played Star Wars song on iTunes—it's just SO epic. He really did an amazing job there.

    He's no John Williams, but given the circumstances, I think he did an amazing job. This is a really great soundtrack.
     
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    Just watched Rogue One again on Netflix, and it continues to be one of my favorite SW films of all. At first, when the movie was released, I was completely underwhelmed by Giacchino's score. And now, although I still find most of the score to be inoffensive but rather forgettable, there are a few moments that really work for me.

    Perhaps the most powerful of these is Jyn's theme playing as the fireball on Scarif takes her and Cassian, then continuing on as the Rebels race to copy the plans and reach the Princess' blockade runner before... HE happens. :cool: And then after the slash-fest, there's that last scene with the old-school Rebel theme just as it sounds just before the stormtrooper attack at the beginning of ANH, complete with the exact same red-alert klaxon. The bridge from the Rogue One soundscape to the ANH soundscape in that scene is, IMHO, a minor act of genius.

    That, and the little flute trill from the pan down just after the opening crawl in ANH is sort of inverted and used during the pan up at the beginning of Rogue One. Had that been preceded by the normal SW theme and crawl, it would have bookended the film perfectly, along with the five minutes or so at the end of the film.
     
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    Jyn Erso and Hope Suite is one of my favorite Star Wars themes and I think it will forever be critically underrated because it's Star Wars and not John Williams.
     
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    You're right, he's no John Williams, because no one is! At the same time, though, I always find it ironic when people (not you) say, "Oh, Giacchino's never gonna be John Williams; his music isn't as memorable," etc... Because honestly, I can't think of a more Williams-esque composer in Hollywood at the moment. Giacchino is capable of absolutely nailing the Williams style, even if his new tunes aren't as memorable. But the instrumentation choices and overall sound connect very naturally with what Williams has been doing with the franchise.

    The Krennic theme sounds like it's in the same family as "March of the Resistance," for example. And when the theme plays behind Krennic's arrival on Scarif, there's this one little blast of brass at one point that sounds straight out of the General Grievous theme. The music when the X-Wings attack Eadu is another example, where Giacchino uses some quick little brass flourishes, and it sounds just like something Williams would have done with the scene.

    I truly think that, if Lucasfilm really didn't want the music veering away too much from the formula, Giacchino was the most intelligent choice. Plus, the man knows his Star Wars and has admitted that he wrote the whole score with little obscure nods to other themes and elements throughout the franchise.
     
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    I agree 100%. There's only one John Williams, and I think Giacchino did a really great job paying homage to the music of Star Wars that John Williams has already created and also incorporating his own original style into it. The music may not be as memorable, but at the same time, Rogue One is in a completely different league than the rest of the Star Wars films anyways. If there was a film to try something different, this was it. They did it and it worked (both for the film and the score). I really think he did a fantastic job with it, and I'd be really happy if he came back to do the scores for future Anthology films, to be honest!
     
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    Honestly, I think it stands proudly and solidly alongside the very best films of the SW series to date. I've never bought the notion that Rogue One needs to be considered as something separate from the numbered "saga" films. It's all part of the same story, and IMHO it works perfectly in that regard.
     
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