OFFICIAL NEWS Rogue One Trailer #1 & #2

It's exactly in the same place where Super Star Destroyers tend to fall on Death Stars instead of just floating along.

 

Ha Ha that's a good one as I too always found that to be quite odd.

 

Actually its way more simple.

The Empire was anti-alien and marginalized most original alien species to places like Mos Eisley. TFA is post-Galactic Empire. We only see Maz's place in TFA and the harsh desert environment of Jakku. And there are aliens in Rogue One, as has been shown, but during the Empire's rule, most OT alien species have been marginalized, even possibly enslaved or eliminated by the Empire - its actually a pretty harrowing thought but Palpy's capable.

We don't even see Twi'leks or any the aforementioned species in the pre-Endor briefing scene.


So where did they really go? Considering they're not even part of the Alliance, we can't even tell whether they all joined the New Republic - probably contributing to its fragility, in fact the Niktos are off trying to rule their own part of the galaxy in a power vacuum left by the Hutts. That's canon sourced from Bloodline, so they are taken care of. And from ROTJ, it follows they wouldn't be anywhere near the action of Rogue One.

 

It is such a large galaxy. To include every single type of aliens would maybe cause the opposite effect: to include all the species just to please.

Aside of that, if you see all the rest of the material available - books, comics, animated series, that is where you have all the species you just have mentioned.

First of all, you have to be aware of something really important: the Empire despised non-humans. Certain humanoids were tolerated - as we've seen with Thrawn - but generally speaking, that was the way the Empire was. We don't know yet the plot of the story, but if we guide ourselves by the ANH opening crawl:

If this is supposed to be a mission delivered by "Rebel spies", and if they were infiltrated into a Imperial location, it's hard to believe a humanoid or another alien would be hardly recognizable, due to the difference in height and body weight. We might have the species in secondary locations, like a cantina or something like that, but I wouldn't like TPTB to do the opposite: to force-feed different alien species just to try to please everyone, and not because the story justifies so.

 

That's true. From Rebels we know the Twi'leks from Ryloth (led by Mr. Cham Syndulla) were sort of reluctant to cooperate with the Rebel Alliance but also were fighting against the Empire to regain their independence. And from Bloodline we learn as well they didn't adhere to the New Republic.

 

I have to disagree with you on that one BobaFettNY21. If this were a sequel then I do think that your theory would be sound but this is a prequel and all of the species Amanaman mentioned are still hanging around and are seen hanging around freely. Bothans, Mon Calamary, Sullustans and Dresselians were just a few of the alien species that were active with the Rebelion during the events of the second Death Star.

 

Not necessarily as we see in the pre-Endor briefing room. Its all humans with Nien Numb, Home One's Mon Cal crew, and Chewie. Considering the amount of resources Lucas had in ROTJ, if there were supposed to be a massive number of aliens active, he certainly would have depicted more.

You'll have to define 'freely'. The only time we actually encounter those species post-ROTS is with Jabba - a mob boss, in out-of-the-way drinking establishments, and various times on Lothal.

Coincidentally, Rebels is unfinished, however, we do know for a fact that the Empire is responsible for wiping out Zeb's species - the Lasats. Logically, they would be similarly hostile to other species (Wookies).

We only have one Mon Cal in-canon with the Rebellion prior to ROTJ - Ackbar is in a comic on Yavin, no other Mon Cals are there, and I believe he was called a 'captain' at that point. Either way, we can't assume there would be tons of Mon Cal anywhere in the Rebellion at that point because we have ANH and ESB as proof they did not make up part of the main force of the Rebel Alliance until ROTJ - same deal with the Sullustans. Nien Numb is the only one mentioned in-canon material. The Battlefront novel is also instructive on the lack of aliens active in galactic affairs.

Case in point - the only wookie we see in the OT is Chewie. The only one. They too were relegated to the outskirts or to their home planet (as per the Chewie comic that everybody hates). We do know they were enslaved, but we still do not see them anywhere near the Rebel Alliance at any time - not on Hoth, not in Home One, not at the pre-Endor briefing.

So we have in-canon confirmation that the Twi-Leks were reluctant to join up and remained on Ryloth, and did not join the New Republic, thereby not being anywhere near Leia's little band.

We have confirmation in-canon that the Niktos are off fighting for scraps from Jabba's table. (Bloodline).

We have Wookies and Lasats - who were enslaved and killed respectively, which articulates the breadth of the Empire's evil anti-alien tendency - downright genocidal.

The only time we meet alien species 'roaming free' is on Tatooine - a planet with no Imperial presence, and Lothal, which were few and far between.

And the Gungans...don't seem to get off planet - weird nobody mentioned them as an example of how some species just don't go anywhere near galactic affairs. Then again.....ugh.

 

I understand what you are trying to say my friend but I'm really not talking about having the familiar aliens as part of the Rebel infiltration team but as background characters seen up and around. While it is true that we can't expect to see the same alien species in every single place and every single planet, Lucas gave us a universe where many other species had colonized the galaxy and could be seen everywhere. In both the OT and the PT this was the case and it made both trilogys merge smoothly and seem like it was the same galaxy but Disney's movies don't feel that way as they have erased everything Lucas except for the two alien main characters Ackbar and Nien Numb. Look at how Lucas meched things:





Those are aliens seen in the OT and now look at many of the same species in the PT:




Seeing all this made the movies flow together nicely as many of these aliens were not seen only on Tatooine but on Coruscant as well. But the new movies just seem to have dumped every single alien species just to give us their own versions.

 

CGI is also much cheaper and less time consuming these days.

 

That's a good one.

 

You are mistaken my friend. There were Ishi Tib in the pre-Endor briefing room as well as Dresselians.


Aside from that, Orrimaarko was a part of the team to go to Endor and he can be seen boarding the Imperial Shuttle while Han tells Lando to take the Falcon and he is seen once more celebrating the Rebel victory.

 

If this is what reshoots produce get that episode viii delayed a day

 

That is true and even in the pic that BobaFettNY21posted you can see an Ishi Tib standing at the top left corner.

 

And they were hostile, according to "Aftermath: Life Debt" and the status quo on Kashyyyk.

And there is where the Story Group is doing a great job including more Wookies other than Chewie (as Black Krrsantan in the comics Star Wars and Darth Vader and Lohgarra in "Lost Stars".)

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but then your perspective is sort of biased towards Star Wars as being solely the movies. You are leaving aside the books, comics, videogames, animated series that are Star Wars too. As I said, if their presence is justified in the screenplay and it makes sense to the story, bring all the aliens you want but let us not wish they do it just because it feels right and look like the movies "flow together nicely". We don't know yet what it is in store for the alien species in the rest of the ST.

Just for example, in ROTJ we had two Twi'lek dancers who were basically background characters in Jabba's palace. Instead, with Rebels we have a Twi'lek captain - Hera Syndulla - whose background and participation in the story makes much more sense than two dancers that could have been any species, human or non-human.

 

Not to be depressing, but this shot of the Rebel prisoners in their orange flight suits reminds me of ISIS prisoners

 

Obi Wan reaction to the Vader revelation

 

The end reminds me watching any war movie with a veteran. I know I get annoying with laughing at some the silliness of some of the stunts they pull in a lot of supposedly realistic actions war movies.

 

Sorry my friend but you are wrong to say that my perspective is sort of biased towards Star Wars as being solely the movies but I must ask you, is your pespective sort of biased towards Star Wars when you tell me this? The only reason I use the movies only is because I try to be fair on my points and try to use the movies only as my main reference but if I were indeed to use books, comics, novels, video games ect. my points would become even more valid sinse the EU largly expanded the roles of the aliens in SW cementing them as very important characters that were indeed part of the universe as a whole. Ever sinse the novels started flowing the EU has been rich in telling stories about the many aliens in SW and does not settle with just the human point of view like the new movies do.
Did you know that the Amanin had dealings with the Empire, first as enemies and then as allies?


Did you know that the Trandoshans had a nice alliance with the Empire and they worked for them to capture Wookie slaves to sell them to the Imperials as slave labor?


Did you have any idea that there was a secret order of Nikto warriors known as the Morgukai that hated both Jedi and Sith and were trained to fight them?

I could go on and on as the SW galaxy is vast with the exploits of the wonderous alien species that Lucas created.








The SW universe was so much more than what Disney is giving us my friend and it was a rich galaxy were even the simplest alien character like Salacious Crumb had an interesting story and was not just a galaxy of human good guys fighting human bad guys were alien species were as rare as Mace Windu's lightsaber. George was so careful with this that he even gave aliens greatly important missions offscreen like the Bothans stealing the second Death Star plans and the Mon Calamary being the ones that greatly boosted the Rebelions war effort. Aliens were an integral part of the story of SW and not just something to be dumped because I'm angry at Lucas and I want to get rid of mostly everything he made to make my house of mouse version.