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SPECULATION Romance - who falls for who in VIII?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Mark Y Moon, Jan 12, 2016.

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Who falls for who...

  1. Poe and Rey

    12 vote(s)
    8.5%
  2. Finn and Rey

    32 vote(s)
    22.7%
  3. Finn and Poe

    11 vote(s)
    7.8%
  4. Finn and Rose

    46 vote(s)
    32.6%
  5. Poe and Rose

    5 vote(s)
    3.5%
  6. Kylo Ren and Rey

    33 vote(s)
    23.4%
  7. Ben Solo and Rey

    40 vote(s)
    28.4%
  8. Maz Kanata and Chewbacca

    19 vote(s)
    13.5%
  9. Create your own romance

    18 vote(s)
    12.8%
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    The connection: The Force Awakened her stop him.
     
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    Yeah. That RJ tweet thing? Was an inside joke thing.



    Nothing to do with SW, sorry.
     
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    How do you know that?
     
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    @JoJoPenelli did you made that up or do you have a link to prove your assertion?
     
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    Maybe Finn & Rose.
     
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    Poe and Rey would be nice.
     
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    This "The Red String of Fate" theory is quite interesting, but it's more proof of their connection in the force than for Reylo.

    This Redditor used a romanticized version of the original story. The original story doesn't have any romantic plot at all. It isn't the story about love, it's the story about intertwined fates.
    The myth just tells us that everyone's finger is tied to a red string that will lead the person to another person with whom he/she will make history.
     
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    Read the tweets and replies.

    It was a joke about Twitter threads, I believe.

    I don't know how stuff like this is jumped on while actual dialogue in the movie is brushed aside.

    The ST is not secretly a romance trilogy. LFL, the directors, and KK have repeatedly hammered home that it's all about family. I've yet to see any evidence that they use the word "family" to mean "romance."

    While I'm at it, if we want to talk about the *actual* themes they're exploring with Rey, here ya go (seriously folks - they're really not being coy about this):

    Kathy Kennedy interview

    MTV:"Tell me a bit about, there's been so much conjecture about Rey's parentage. For you is that question integral to the story in these last 2 films or is too much being made of that question."

    KK:"No, I think it is integral. I think it is important. I think it's something that you know....Interestingly enough even when we were sitting coming up with episode VII:TFA. It was one of the central questions we were all asking ourselves. So it's not surprising that the audience is going to continue...ask that, we have to answer it at some point. I think that's what everyone is intrigued by. Do we answer that now? do we answer it later? Hmmm, I'm not going to answer that. (laughs)"

    Also, attached tweet.
     

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    Again, that's your personal view. Facts -as the definition shows- are not subject to interpretation.

    I am okay with people whose opinion differs from mine. I just get a little frustrated when they state and defend their opinion as if it were a fact.
     
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    Are you referring to my saying the ST is not about romance, specifically?

    Or what I posted re the string tweet, interview, or PH tweet?

    And if you disagree, could you explain why the alternate interpretation is equally or more likely?

    Imo, this isnt a matter of determining absolute truth. It's about demonstrating which of the possible answers is the most likely to be correct based on what we know.

    ("But you dont know that for a fact!," which is a response I see quite often, is essentially meaningless in the context of a *speculation* thread....)
     
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    My view of the problem is that you misinterpret statements by PH, the creators and executives posted on social media or taken from interviews as hard canonical facts. Taking the personal opinions and thoughts as hard canonical facts – is not the right way to go. Tweets and Interviews are NOT a reliable source. just like Reylo's relationship, there are still things that „are simply undefined until someone creates a definition for it in a future story.“

    The Star Wars Canon is Unchanging and Not Really Open to Interpretation


    Quoting @FN-3263827 "At this point no hard evidence here pointing necessarily at any one absolute answer“.
     
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    Daisy Ridley, Mark Hamill and even Rian Johnson keep liking "Reylo" fan arts:

    GBlupdb.jpg

    What does this mean? Are they trying to prepare us? Haha!
     
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    Or maybe they're trying to divert our attention from the true romance, which will be Chewie and the Porgs?
     
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    AHa!!!! No rosepassion??? :p

    I dunno...i think she is cute...but i agree with you....i hate diluting the story with a bunch of charachters and arcs with who you just wont have time to bond....i think they should stick with the trinity (kylo, rey and Finn) from the tfa...perhaps add more depth to poe. I would hate to have another R1-esque pleiade of underdevelopped charachters whose name im gonna forget as soon as i leave the theater.

    And also i think Rey's lineage must be revealed in 8. Or at least myst be clear that she is or isnt related to Kylo. This dancing around the incestuous lines has gone far too long to be deemed appropriate anymore...im getting sick entired of it tbh.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 24, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 24, 2017 ---
    Oh my god...how would that work? Sounds painful....:eek::confused:
     
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    How is art depicting Rey and Kylo inherently "Reylo"...?

    Ya know, ReySkys get the clear Yin Yang contrast being made between Kylo and Rey.

    What we don't see is romance.

    Just about everything I've seen ReyxKylo theorists point to in the film (and commentary) is consistant with Kylo and Rey being related. Heck, we even see the tension.

    We just don't see it as sexual tension.

    This is what we see (villain in a Sherlock episode w/politician he's blackmailing):

    [​IMG]

    Not sexual tension. Just a classic way of establishing that a villain is creepy, violates personal space, has no compunctions, and is dangerous, whether or not actual violance is suggested.

    THAT is what Rey Related folks see.
     
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    Easy...if there aee hearts in the pic kylo+rey = reylo =/=family
    Maybe friends with benefits?
     
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    Cute pic.
     
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    Erm, I saw no hearts...
     
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    "Rey loves porgs...and Kylo." the fanart is clearly "Reylo". (and yes, there are lots of hearts on that picture).

    what i would be interested to know is whether they have also "liked" ReySky fan art.

    ever since Rian Johnson's "sweetheart" post on instagram i've been thinking either they are trying to telegraph stuff because there's still a significant portion of the audience not on board with redeeming Ben, or else they are trolling the fans, which, frankly, i think would be pretty uncool (and likely to backfire). hahaha

    two things i have noticed:
    • no one from Lucasfilm talks bad about Kylo Ren. they call him a villain, but it's always framed with more compassion than malice. the only exception was Pablo Hidalgo, who came out of TFA spouting a lot of venom--and who has curiously been much more tempered on the topic lately (and, in fact, he actually reframed his language regarding some tweets in which he was particularly malicious).
    • the marketing has also softened on Ren Ben. from the moment they released a "birth announcement" with the publication of Aftermath:Empire's End, it feels like they are treating him more like the Solo child and less like the murderer.
     
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    They have to treat him like this because Kylo Ren/Ben Solo is the last Skywalker/Solo who can "produce" a new generation of Skywalkers/Solos. Haha!
     
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