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Rose Tico in Ep 9

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by CnlSandersdeKFC, Dec 15, 2017.

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    That's right. She cared more about the space horses than enslaved children. She even went so far as to ask the kids to help free them . Then to save her own arse she jumped on them to escape the space cops. Hey you're on your own kid. Ohh and I have a ******* jack ring for you. Ohh thanks a lot lady. I wouldn't be surprised if broom boy turned to the darkside because of her.

    My point is.. her intentions are always good, but her priorities are all out of sorts. She needs to grow up and get some perspective. Just like Poe, same idea. Is it terrible to think that a female character is flawed :eek:??
     
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    if chris and JJ can make her useful to the story then ... yes.

    I really like kelly marie tran, she seems like a really sweet person, but her character- and subplot - in TLJ was easily the weakest part of the movie.
     
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    If you're going to push this thread off topic with more statements about The Last Jedi at least get the plot points correct. There's never a choice between slaves vs. animals in The Last Jedi. Finn and Rose escape by using the fathiers as part of their mission on Canto Bight. If you want to keep hating on the film there's a great thread for that.

    I'd love to know if you have on topic thoughts about Rose in Episode IX.
     
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    Yes my point is she's naive. Like luke in ANH. eventually in ROTJ he becomes a wise Jedi. But for now you have to aknowledge that she is flawed in order to understand and realize her character development. If you think she is perfect, then you need to open your eyes. This thread isn't lets all praise the wonderful precious Rose thread either.
     
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    You can keep repeating your opinion over and over, but I'm not going to acknowledge anything other than our opinions are different. If you have anything to offer beside saying the same thing I'd love to hear it.
     
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    She was a thorn in TLJ's side, and not the only thorn. There were many thorns hurting that movie.
     
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    I do, but you keep replying me, so i defend my position with several varying points.
     
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    @Finn_McCool @DailyPlunge If you both are going to continue to but heads then how about hitting the ignore buttons, that's one of the reasons why we have that option. Not everyone see's eye to eye so why try and force it? There's plenty commentary for you both to expand upon than just each others.
     
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    Let's hope Rose completely disappears without an in-movie explanation. Very few would miss her.
     
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    It'll be a good test of JJ's writing chops because that seems like the most obvious direction to go in for me as well. Although with Leia out of the picture there aren't many female characters left so keeping her around makes sense. JJ did an outstanding job with character interactions in TFA so I'm sure he'll do great things with her in the next film.
     
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    From what we've seen of Rose in TLJ, I'd like to see her become an ambiguous character in EPIX.

    What happens if Finn or Poe or Rey find out she's going to do something horrible to help the Resistance? Or her ideas lead her to oppose the resistance? Rose is very sure of herself, but her thinking lacks all perspective but her own. In TLJ she's operating out of pain of loss of her sister, but if she continues down that track she might make an interesting dilemma for our heroes. Not evil, but so consumed with her own ideology being right that she can't see that her view is too simplistic and it could cost not only lives, but victory.

    I think it would bring relevance to her part in TLJ, and even if fans may dislike her more, it'll be due to her character and her impact to our heroes rather than having a boring or non essential arc.
     
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    Did anyone else that JJ mentioned Rey, Poe, Finn and Kylo when discussing complaints by fans about too many female characters, but he didn't mention Rose?

    While Rose might continue to exist, I don't really see her being front and center like she was in TLJ. In an ideal world, I would rather see more of female characters like Jessika Pava, who is an interesting character going by the comics or even Connix who has the potential to be another Mon Mothma type of character.
     
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    If only biased discussions about Rose are welcomed here then please, for clarity, rename the thread to:
    ROSE TICO IN EP 9 - ONLY THOSE WHO LOVE HER ARE WELCOME AND ONLY AGREEING WITH THE OP IS ALLOWED

    Otherwise stop trying to rudely drive away people from here if they say what you don't like. There is no need for it.

    I agree with this. I think she served a purpose in ep. 8. I do not see that her and Finn's romance/relationship will be at the front centre of the story in the next movie because she is not one of the main charachters but just connected to one of the protagonists (not even one of the main ones at that). So I wouldn't be surprised even if she succumbed from her wounds and died in 9. I mean look what happened to Ackbar in tlj...

    If she wasn't flawed her name would be Mary Suetico :D
     
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    That's true. The thing about Rose is she isnt glamorous. Her sister was a bomber pilot who dies in a blaze of glory. While Rose is a plumber or something. It is kind of an interesting perspective. Meybe her and Finn will get their heroic moment together in 9. I call her Tokyo Rose. Rose Tico has to be an anagram or something. It's too close not to be. Tokyo Rose sent propoganda broadcasts to US troops in the pacific theatre during ww2. It was so ridiculous the troops just laughed it off, to the point that she was pardoned after the war.
     
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    It's not. Actually the person who started the thread doesn't like her. All opinions should (and are) welcome, but as in anything else, some people don't like to hear an opposing view of their belief and head canon. The point is what we think of Rose's role will be moving forward and what we'd want it to be. Our reasoning can only be based on our interpretation of her in TLJ. So to anticipate or hope for in her future is invariably linked to our opinion of her and her actions in the past.
     
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    JJ's quote seems to be only discussing the main characters. Rose is more of a supporting character in The Last Jedi. Perhaps she'll have a larger role in IX, but after TFA the cast was a little too crowded already. One advantage to having a new Star Wars series is the ability to reduce the cast.
     
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    It's not like JJ mentioned Hux as well.
     
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    JarJar:Episode II::Rose:Episode IX

    In other words, she should be "promoted" to a prestigious position that takes her almost entirely away from the story. Unfortunately, I feel characters like Rose have been held up as some kind of analog for women/Asians. So, that complicates things because if characters exist for purposes beyond the story, then you can't simply alter their story without some other consequence. Thus, I worry we won't be able to sideline Rose without some kind of social justice uproar, and modern Disney would never, ever, ever risk that. =\

    The same would have been true for Holdo but they gave her a hero's death. I suppose they could do something similar for Rose in the first 10 minutes of Episode IX, but, that might be hard to pull off narratively since there will likely be so much to explain at the beginning of Episode IX.
     
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    It's one thing not to to like Rose, but when people start blaming her existence on a political agenda it's just gross. It's an embarrassing element of fandom.
     
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    erm, keep in mind, I'm not saying we can't have an Asian, female character by organic methods. Rather, I'm saying that IF that character were sidelined, there would be the kind of backlash that Disney wouldn't flippantly dismiss (the way they have with so many TLJ criticisms). Thus, I don't see how it could happen. That's all.

    And it's not me saying this. It's the stories like these (link: one, two, three). Even ones from Asian women who were led to the same conclusion (link: four). So, go call them gross I guess?
     
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