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RT Audience Score Rigged Again

Discussion in 'Solo' started by DailyPlunge, May 20, 2018.

  1. BobRoss

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    I liked Solo a lot and I couldn't be happier with how the movie turned out. However, if SOLO doesn't do so well at the Box Office it won't bother me too much. If (!) there is indeed a link between SOLOs "low" box office and TLJ dividing the fanbase then Disney will probably keep a closer watch on Rian's future projects.
     
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    Seems like it's just the opposite so far. General audiences are staying away because the reviews haven't been very good. The scientific audience scores are lower than TLJ.

    Maybe word of mouth will help, but it seems like most Star Wars fans are going to see the film. For these films to be super box office smashes Lucasfilm needs general audiences to buy tickets.
     
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    Jesus dude.
    You have serious issues with Facebook. We get it.
    --- Double Post Merged, May 27, 2018 ---
    Most already do similar things.
    You can link your Disney Movies Anywhere with Vudu and Amazon and Fandango already.
    It wouldn't be too difficult as it wouldn't be about financial services just voting records.
     
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    I have no idea how those services you mention work, but I would imagine this would have to work at the exhibitors level, i.e. the actual movie theaters themselves, you would have to be able to link the code on your ticket itself and that would require collaboration with the people creating and printing the ticket, even if it worked for Disney that would only be one studio (although better than nothing). Does voting on Fandango have any requirement for buying a ticket from them first? Because if it doesn't work that way, and the way I understand it is that it does not (I've never used it), this would really be a great way to make Fandango a useful measurement.
     
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    As far as I know, it doesn't but it easily could since all purchases are through the service.
     
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    I've already convinced a couple of friends who didn't want to go because of TLJ to join me on my second viewing. I'm also trying my best to bring some positivity to the cesspools that are the comment sections of the youtube channels "Midnight's Edge", "Mike Zeroh" and "Geeks and Gamers". However I have to admit that it's quite shocking how deep the hatred of some so called fans runs when it comes to Kathleen Kennedy and Lucasfilm. They seem to be unable to differentiate between SOLO and TLJ as two individual pieces of art which is quite cpncerning. I sympathised with some of the critics of TLJ because they were making valid points but lately I am more and more under the impression that they were never really interested in giving Lucasfilm another chance.
     
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    And how do you feel about this text of yours now when Solo is struggling to fill up seats and failing to reach even 100 million over the real 3-day weekend (do not try to spin this as a 4-day weekend just because of Memorial Day, you should compare it to every other movie).

    When will people like you every learn? Nothing was ever rigged, this was made up by people like you and the media because you couldn't accept the fact that many people actually didn't like The Last Jedi. The media tried to call it the work of the alt-right and women haters when the criticism comes from people of all genders and races. People didn't like it for GENUINE reasons.

    You'll continue to eat up your words as time goes on.
     
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    What a bizarre rant. You can deny voter brigading all you want it doesn't change the fact it happens. It's not some elaborate media conspiracy. This is a movie we're discussing, not the JFK assassination. Solo's box office fate has zero do with the fact the user score at RT is easy to manipulate.

    In other news it appears the RT audience score for Solo is climbing. The movie isn't doing well at the box office so maybe they're calling off the dogs.
    We have the scientific scores for Solo. The audiences appear to like the film and are recommending it. These numbers are the lowest of the Disney films so far, but this is better than what we saw for Jumanji back in December.

    Solo
    - 89% overall positive on ComScore
    - A- CinemaScore
    - 73% definite recommend
     
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    Bob dont waste much your time in those youtube channels they, for example geeks and gamers, hate the new films to the point of being ridiculous and unreasonable, i dont think that you will make any change with his followers either, they think that if you liked TLJ or Solo, or you are a Disney Shill, or a literal Nazi xD
     
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    These conspiracy theories are nonsense. Rotten Tomatoes publicly said that those numbers were correct and not tampered with. Why is it so hard for you to accept that people didn’t like The Last Jedi?
     
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    Voodoo just think a bit from a brand perspective, it does not make any sense that they would admit something of that caliber because they would be hurting their own brand, and also they would lose credibility as a review site. Keep in mind that RT is aware of the vote brigading, since one of the former managers of that site admitted that he did not pay attention to the users reviews, since he noticed that several film directors, whose movies were poorly evaluated by the critics, asked their fans in the social media to increase the score of the film on the site
     
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    It's astounding that people still act like brigading isn't happening. I don't get it. At this point anyone trying to argue that it't not happening can just be ignored. It's simply not logical to act like it's not happening.
     
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    Because people can go to RT with no screen name and picture and give a 1/2 star or 5 star rating without even seeing the movie to form an original opinion. For every one review saying "I didn't like the way they treated Luke in TLJ" there are 5 negatives saying "KK sux", "fire Rainy Johnson" etc.

    There's been other movies and video games that it's happen too both past and present. It happen with Mass Effect 3 with Metacritc. People were posting fake reviews and driving down the score because they hated the ending.

    People tried to bring down Black Panther because they were racists and thought the movie name was in relation to the Black Panther political/racist group or what ever it is (which it wasn't). RT had to put a stop on that and just look at every DC movie after The Dark Knight Trilogy.

    People are spamming the score for Solo for issues that was related to TLJ even though Ron Howard had noting to do with that much less effected TLJ in any way. I mean how can you take it seriously when a user with no picture or username says

    "A disgrace to Harrison Ford, to George Lucas, and to Star Wars fans."

    Seriously? Both of those people were involved in the movie production and George literally created a scene in the movie that dealt with Han. He clearly didn't see the movie much less follow any news about the movie. He might of payed attention to "Alden needed an acting coach" news even though that falls on the director for not being able to give proper instructions.

    If you honestly think people didn't game the RT score for the TLJ and Solo to some extent, than there's no hope for you. Even though stuff like that has happen in the past with other franchises and other websites. I mean people tried to bring down the score for Solo on IMDB before the movie even came out and IMDB actually purged all of the user reviews (which I never seen before). For IMDB to do that, there is some truth to gaming the scores issue.

    Before 2015, I never seen so many people use RT as a "one all be all" for user reviews and trying to pass it off as fact. I don't recall ever discussing RT scores during OT vs PT, arguing between The Dark Knight vs Dark Knight Rises or even with the Marvel movies with Avengers vs Avengers: Age of Ultron.
     
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    Sorry, but The Last Jedi isn’t very well liked and I don’t believe the numbers were rigged in any significant manner. Rotten Tomatoes claims their site numbers are correct. Why is it so hard to accept that many people didn’t care for the film?

    http://variety.com/2017/digital/new...tomatoes-user-ratings-bots-skewed-1202647473/
     
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    As I mentioned in the OP the RT numbers were debunked months ago. A person might as well argue that water isn't wet or that the sun rises in the West. To continue arguing otherwise is illogical. Best bet is to just hit the ignore button because anyone still defending it isn't interested in a good faith debate.
     
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    IF you read my post, I listed 3 or 4 reasons why we don't accept it, especially read my comment about IMDB which brings even more doubt about what RT says.

     
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    I would argue that It’s simply not logical for some fans to insist that The Last Jedi is some type of beloved classic that is above criticism. Rotten Tomatoes has publicly stated that fanboy theories about the unpopular and divisive Last Jedi are simply not correct. These conspiracy theories would be more at home in an X-Files episode rather than reality.

    "But it’s far more likely that thousands of disgruntled “Star Wars” fans are actually responsible for the weak Rotten Tomatoes user score. Asked about the claims outlined in the HuffPost piece, Rotten Tomatoes said the security team tasked with managing the scores hasn’t seen any unusual user activity that would indicate its scores have been successfully tampered with.”

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    You're attempting to reason with someone who is unreasonable. It's textbook trolling. Just don't feed the trolls.
     
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    Why are some people so delusional?

    Why are some people so disconnected from reality?

    It's a question they will never get the answer to.
     
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