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SPECULATION Rule of two or rule of many? sith's

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by FallenAngel, Jan 10, 2016.

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how should the sith be established

  1. rule of one

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  1. FallenAngel

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    Should the new starwars films use the rule of two established in the E.U or have lots of sith dotted through out the universe ruled by one?
     
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    I'd prefer the Sith stay extinct for once. In the EU, they kept coming back so many times that they ended up with Team Rocket Syndrome.
     
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    The entire SAGA continuously states the rule of two so...THE RULE OF TEO .
     
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    No sith here ...move along ...move along!
     
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    Yeah, the rule of two is not just EU... it's canon as well. But the Sith are extinct, so there goes that.

    Should our new Dark Side users follow that rule? I don't see why they should. I say let's do something different. I don't want to see whole armies of Force users squaring off, but three or four characters on either side would be neat to see.
     
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    I would like anthology movies in upcoming years to have the rule of many. And those movies can show why the rule of two exists- the sith are always betraying one another.

    If i never see a movie like this I will cry:

     
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    I don't think they do Sith in these movies. Perhaps Snoke is Plagueis, but he was thrown out of the Sith by Palpatine. I think the knights of ren will be the sith of this movie. A new name, much more interesting, much more room for creative input. I want the knights of Ren to be different and have different objectives than the sith.
     
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    Wasn't the rule of two more or less started with The Phantom Menace and expanded on in the eu?
     
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    The Sith are dead.
    Snoke has established the KOR under a different philosophy.
    The Rule of Two was a survival mechanism - and that essentially failed in the end.
    Snoke (even if he is not a Sith of old) has learned from the failings of the Sith Order and how the Rule of Two could in fact be a danger to him.
    Instead it appears that he has created an order that views him as the one and only master (look how Kylo and Hux worship him).
    On top of this, he holds all the knowledge so his minions will never rise up against him as they need him to progress.
    In creating an order of multiple members, he has also ensured the no one person will attempt to destroy him and take over.

    Snoke also doesn't seem to suffer as badly from the over confidence/arrogance of Sidious.
    He appears to accept that Luke and the Resistance is a threat to him.
     
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    I like the rule of two for the Sith.
    Other dark force user sects can have different rules.
     
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    How do you know this, snoke seems to be a dark side user, he talked about completing kylo's training, this as far as i know could mean anything?

    We don't yet know who established the KOR

    Heres a interesting one for you. the rule of two lives on?

    The rule of two is a master (with power) and an apprentice (to crave it)
    Emperor and Vader.
    when an apprentice is powerful enough, and at the right time, he will kill his master.

    Is luke the new sith leader by default and the sole inherited of the jedi order?
    emperor > vader (vader kills emporor) vader > luke (luke inadvertently kills vader) ergo,
    luke inherits the rule of the sith and the rule of the jedi's, as the last surviving yoda trained jedi?

    Question

    Who is luke's new jedi/sith apprentice going to be?
     
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    There are two ways we know this. The first way is that, as you say, there are only two Sith and we saw them both die at the end of ROTJ. Their death marked the fulfillment of the prophecy of the one would would bring balance to the Force. That being Anakin, and the fulfillment being the destruction of the Sith.

    To be sure, that doesn't mean the end of the Dark Side, and that's exactly what we seem to have here; a new Dark Side cult or sect that has different aims than those of the now-extinct Sith.
     
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    Im not sure i have said that, i asked the question, is the rule of two in effect, has it ever been in any of the films, the fact that we have only ever focused on two sith does not mean it has been established there is only two sith?


    It's interesting the prophesy, it talks about bringing balance to the force yes certainly, but in what capacity that balance is manifested is certainly up for debate?
    We have seen the jedi and sith destroyed, and anikins offspring have, in many ways, unset and brought balance to the universe.
    Its a very interpretive prophesy do you agree?
     
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    I see the Sith or Knights of Ren or whatever they call themselves as Greedy and Selfish Jedi and as long there's Jedi there will Greedy ones.

    The Rule of Two was just a way to greedy little piggies keep their status/power from other greedy pigs, i guess those dirty Jedi will organize themselves in the better way to get them what they want at the time, is it one and a sidekick or an army of followers, their goal is to get and kept power no matter what
     
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