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Rumor: The Obi-Wan Kenobi Film May be the First Star Wars Movie for Disneys Streaming Platform

Discussion in 'SWNN News Feed' started by SWNN Probe, Jun 24, 2018.

  1. SWNN Probe

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    The Playlist has their own article on the ongoing restructuring of non-Saga, non-Rian Johnson, and non-Benioff-and-Weiss Star Wars movies that's taking place after Solo's disappointing box office returns, and it presents an interesting concept: we might be getting direct-to-streaming Star Wars movies on Disney's forthcoming service, with the rumored Obi-Wan Kenobi movie serving as the first one.





    The report corroborates the news that Stephen Daldry left development on the project, but the author of the piece adds that his exit came six months ago - which would translate to a December 2017 or January 2018 departure. If that's true, then Solo's box office is not to blame for the film's alleged production delay, and they're likely still looking for a creative team to handle the project. But perhaps more importantly is how we might get that movie: as an exclusive for Disney's upcoming streaming service, which will launch in the Autumn of next year. The author of the piece was skeptical of that report at the time he had heard it (which, again, was months ago), but now it seems like it might not be so far-fetched an idea given that Solo didn't do all that well. Bear in mind that this info should still be taken with several grains of salt, and nothing is confirmed as Lucasfilm continues to remain tight-lipped about what they currently have and previously had in the pipeline.



    While I'm personally of the opinion that Star Wars movies need to be seen on the biggest screen possible, I think that this would be a smart move for Disney to consider doing this kind of thing. They need to ensure that there's more Star Wars content hitting the service than to have Jon Favreau executive produce new seasons of his upcoming show once every year if they want it to take off. Having smaller movies made for the smaller screen would also be a good way to flesh out the setting while ensuring that every upcoming Star Wars movie that hits theaters serves as a true theatrical 'event' and to avoid fears of franchise fatigue. Furthermore, a movie about Obi-Wan set almost entirely or entirely on Tatooine seems like something that could be done on a modest or even low budget; fans shouldn't get the impression that a film about the character set after Revenge of the Sith will be a hugely flashy, VFX-heavy affair on the scale of Rogue One.



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    I still hope that Disney would be willing to give such the movie, and any other Star Wars movie produced for their streaming service, a limited theatrical engagement or something, but still - anything with Ewan McGregor playing Obi-Wan Kenobi again is worth my time, no matter how I get to see it, and I presume many fans feel the same way. On another note, this might also be how they address their Solo problem, in that film set itself up for at least one sequel - they could do a more modestly-budgeted follow-up or follow-ups to it to make the most of the film's excellent cast on their streaming service. I've certainly argued in favor of this, and if they're committed to doing small-scale movies, a Solo follow-up or follow-ups seem like they have the potential to do enjoy life there, provided that there are no production nightmares again. Ron Howard clearly got a kick out of taking over the film, however unexpectedly it was for him, and maybe he could get to continue to work with the cast and crew with more adventures of Han and Chewie. It'd certainly help Lucasfilm to have him in their corner for future Star Wars projects, along with the potential Willow sequel he says he's open to making.





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    Now thats a great idea and a great way to help sell the streaming service to people.
     
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    Why not just make it a TV miniseries then? Ewan does TV so it's hardly an issue for him.
     
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    Or, to put it in other words - outside of B&W and Rian's films we have no idea what's going on in terms of SW films.
     
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    Im ready to believe LFL is actually just sourcing leaks by telling varying departments different things and seeing which comes out where.
     
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    I like this idea. If the quality would be there, it's a good way to go. Obi-Wan is a perfect project for streaming, because the budged could be smaller than that of a usual Star Wars film. But again, the quality has to be higher than anything ever seen on streaming.
     
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    The quality on streaming is very high right now, it's just that the QUANTITY is also very high and well, more isnt always better lol
     
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    If that's true, then the guy who is responsible for this decision should be fired.

    A Star Wars movie needs to come to the cinemas first! Furthermore featured films have a much bigger budget and much more time to get produced. No, thanks. A Kenobi movie needs to be treated very high. If not, well, then don't make it!
     
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    i dunno man ~ the world is changing. the way we watch movies is changing.
    if Lucasfilm wants to be a trailblazer, it needs to think differently and part of that is looking at the variety of distribution methods.

    i'd rather see a successful streaming Ob-Wan movie than an unsuccessful theatrical release Obi-Wan movie.
    why not try something like this? the most important thing is that Star Wars is bigger than the platform you see it on.
     
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    I think this is actually really genius.

    Star Wars needs to be better fleshed out these days, particularly with the sequel trilogy.

    Utilizing a streaming service could absolutely make this work.
     
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    Disney lost a lot of money because of their terrible marketing decisions and now they want to become even worse by this?

    What do you mean by successful? Financially successful or storywise/filmmaking wise successful? There is a much bigger possibility for both outcomes with a theatrical release.

    Star Wars was and should always be a event for the cinemas. Cinemas are already dying and with this step they will be gone in no time. I don't want cinemas to vanish!
     
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    could be an answer for people who want so much more than what a single film can provide in terms of world-building, etc.

    and hey; we've all been thinking an Obi-Wan movie has to be about Tatooine, etc.
    what if it's about Obi-Wan's ghost and he's hopping the galaxy rousing young Force users to awaken or something?
    just thought i would toss that out there.

    i don't want cinemas to vanish either, but this death knell has been going on since i was a kid. they're not going anywhere for the moment.

    also, Disney really didn't lose that much money. not in the great scheme of things.
    and this probably taught them a lesson that they will hopefully learn from.
    why assume the worst? maybe things will be better?
     
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    Maybe in America, but in Germany it looks quite differently. Cinemas are losing money. Not only because less and less people want to watch movies in cinemas but also because of Disney's way of doing things. They are slowly becoming an empire (no pun intended) and they can demand more and more money. Not that unlikely that this will actually happen, especially after Disney bought FOX.

    Unfortunately this is not how the movie business works. :/
     
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    While I agree that Star Wars has always been an event to be seen in theaters, I'm not opposed to having something like an Obi Wan movie or miniseries on the streaming service. The Star Wars universe is massive and having content delivered via the streaming service will allow Lucasfilm to dive more into that universe without having to shell out massive amounts of money on things like marketing that they would have to do with a theatrical release. I still believe the bigger movies like RJ's new trilogy will be shown in theaters. Streaming services are very strong right now due to their naturally convenient nature and they are, to a degree, more economical for a family then having to pay to take an entire family to see a film in theaters. It'll be a fine line for them to walk should they go down this avenue though because it could be very easy for Lucasfilm to begin to start pumping out content too quickly and cause more Star Wars fatigue.
     
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    well i can appreciate that you are coming from a different perspective, but at the same time: Disney is the Empire and has been for a long time.
    i boycotted Disney for 15 years (fat lot of good that did, though it made me feel better). XD
    now that they own Star Wars, i'm at their mercy.

    and then sometimes it is.
    yes, there's a lot of crap filmmaking going on. there's also good stuff out there.
    and guess what: a lot of it is streaming.
     
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    The upside to making these movies for the streaming service is that they can be much smaller, condensed, character driven stories like they should be.
    If David Mackenzie can make Hell or High Water for ~30 million and film in like two months, then an Obi-Wan movie when he's on Tattooine should be pretty Maclunkey cost effective.

    This would give Disney a chance to make incredibly diverse Star Wars stories across many genres and points of view.
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    You can't rail against the decline of cinemas while simultaneously wanting a bigger budget Kenobi flick. THE RISING COSTS OF FILMS ARE A BIG REASON WHY CINEMAS ARE STRUGGLING.
    More smaller budget films being successful is a good thing. if they have to be online, so be it.
    But the studios need to understand that not every "big movie" needs 100 million thrown at it.

    Rising costs of films pushes their costs on the consumer (us) and onto the theater chains. Studios need more money back to make profits on a movie that costs 200m to make and 200m to market. We see it in the price of a theater ticket. The theaters see it when fewer people show up for a 15 dollar per ticket Saturday night. But the thing is, the theater still gets their measly pop. Now they're struggling more. They dont get blast from ticket sales. They need concessions. So they have to raise the price there to cover the costs of the movies and theater upkeep. Why? Because home theaters are dope now. It has to be MORE enjoyable to spend money at a theater than stream it at home. So they have to renovate. Luxury recliners everywhere. Refurbish the lobby. Increase quality of food. All this is reflected in what we pay for a popcorn and soda. But when families are dropping 60 bucks for tickets alone, they aren't getting the large popcorn and soda. It's smuggling Reese's Pieces from the grocery store time.

    So no, Kenobi isn't special. It doesn't need a bigger budget. It's a movie about an old man in the desert. Let's not over think this.

    If you want to help theaters out, go see more smaller movies and buy more concessions. It clears more $$$$ for the theaters.

    But this is why AMC is launching their huge service now.
    Why Cinemark has theirs.
    Why MoviePass was a hit before people realized it's a scam.
     
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    Also, streaming it on their own network = 100% profit. No 3rd party distribution. No money going to theater chains. Etc. Niche SW ideas are only going to appeal to hardcore fans. Movies cost too much to take any risks anymore. There is too much to loose. That's why genre television is so amazing now.

    As my post goes on it dissolves into a personal SW opinion rant. You've been warned lol
    For the few details they have mentioned I can't say I am excited at all for the current projects though.

    I would like to see some sort of 'Level 1313' take, or KotOR, or Ahsoka and Sabine off on some outer rim/ unknown regions adventures with the overall arc of looking for Ezra. Maybe some serious animation movies like DC puts out.

    I'm quite baffled that they can't come up with anything interesting in this vast space opera setting. From personal experience I can tell you it is -SO- easy to come up with original content in such a setting. I embraced and began development in my friend and associates space opera RPG setting Battlelords in 2006 when there was going to be 'no more Star Wars.' I figured, if Lucas was not going to do anything more then I could. Bioware and the Mass Effect writer had the same idea. My group is in no way limited by fresh, new ideas. The only problem we have is we don't have enough operating capital to put it all in motion.. so we work on what we can as funds become available. I really don't get what the problem is with their unlimited resources. Just hire the best sci-fi writers in the business and have them create a few pitches. Or stop kneecapping Dave Fioni and limiting him with childish B.S. restraints.

    If he can polish the turd that was the PT and make the best SW stories outside the OT then let him be the creative overseer going forward. The execs can't see the forest for the trees.

    Back on topic: I don't care where the content shows up. A theater, on cable, streaming, etc. My setup at home is a more rewarding /comfortable experience then a theater anyway.
     
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    i suspect a lot of stuff is being killed/stalled/stifled in committees, unfortunately.
    but maybe the lower risk of something like private network production will make it easier for them to work, like you said, on niche projects that will be fan pleasers without all the overhead pressure of trying to likewise appeal to the general audience.
     
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    This is the "Marvel movies are all the same" conundrum.
    Marvel does have a level of sameness in their films because they want to hit as many quadrants as possible with as many movies as possible.
    So there is a level of truth to this.

    Star Wars, is more concerned with being Star Wars. Unfortunately that means the real nitty gritty of it isn't of interest to casual movie goers and if you made it of interest to casual movie goers, you'd probably lose a lot of the stuff that makes it fun.

    Are you willing to potentially sacrifice some of this for the big screen? Or do you want your down and dirty, crazy and nerdy Star Wars?
     
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    If Disney does this then the toxic fan base will have nothing to complain about. Oh wait...they'll still complain
     
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