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Rumors About Zorri Bliss From Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by SWNN Probe, Aug 5, 2019.

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    All that we officially know about Keri Russell's Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker character Zorri Bliss is that she'll cross paths with the Resistance on the frigid planet Kijimi. But new rumors about her role may indicate she has a personal (but not necessarily familial) connection to Rey.





    WARNING: POTENTIAL SPOILERS AHEAD!



    Fairly recently, Making Star Wars shared a speculative piece hypothesizing how the story of The Rise of Skywalker could go based on their inside knowledge and a couple of discussions that they've had with Bespin Bulletin. One thing that the two parties can agree on is that it appears as though Zorri is 100% a 'good guy' (or at least an ally of convenience against the First Order) in the movie, based on promotional images showcasing her associated with the heroic characters.



    MSW notes that Zorri helps the Resistance escape Kijimi when they're found, and that she spends at least some time off of the planet following those events. Beyond that, there's something else of interest: the design of a certain ship that appears in the film, which Rey comments looks oddly familiar. While MSW have not been able to confirm anything else, it appears that the ship belongs to Bliss herself, given that Bespin Bulletin has told them that the ship is also seen aligned with the other Resistance ships. We've already caught what might be a glimpse of it in the teaser trailer for The Rise of Skywalker in the establishing shot of Kijimi, which you can see in the below image:



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    Fans have pointed out the ship's resemblance to the one we saw leaving a young Rey behind in her vision from The Force Awakens, and while some have associated it with her parents, MSW is theorizing that Zorri is the one who left her behind, perhaps because she could have been working with the First Order. If so, this resolves the inconsistencies between her vision in The Force Awakens and Kylo Ren's awful truth in The Last Jedi: Rey's parents were never from Jakku, and while they may very well be dead and buried in desert graves, they weren't the ones on that ship when Rey was screaming for it to come back.



    So, to throw our own hat into the speculation ring, this could prove to be an interesting story element depending on how it plays out. Perhaps Zorri is another relative of Rey's who wanted to protect her flesh and blood from the abuses of their family, and she decided that she'd have to be placed in another terrible situation so that Rey's parents would never find her. Or, going along with MSW and Bespin Bulletin's speculation, perhaps Zorri was a third party that sought to buy Rey from two drunkards in order to collect a larger bounty from the First Order, only for Zorri to have a change of heart and leave Rey in a place where nobody threatening or harmful would think to look. Either way, if Rey finds out that Zorri had a role in abandoning her on Jakku, it's not going to be a smooth conversation, even if it was ultimately for her own long-term safety. (And hey, maybe the reason she's wearing that mask is not to disguise her identity from the viewers, but from Rey.)



    One thing is clear: J.J. Abrams is not explicitly retconning the existing explanation that Rey's mysterious parents are 'nobodies', nor making it so the scavenger-turned-Jedi is associated with a significant familiar Star Wars bloodline. Back in April, he outright stated that Rey's story arc would be consistent with what was revealed at the end of The Last Jedi, but that there was more to the story that will be clearly told by the end of the trilogy. Perhaps, then, the expansion of Rey's backstory might not be about the identity of her parents, but who left her on Jakku - and, more importantly, why.



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    As for Russell, she's spoken highly of Abrams and Chris Terrio's screenplay for the final film of the 'Skywalker Saga' back in June. While speaking to AP News about The Rise of Skywalker, Russell explained that she quickly fell in love with the script that Abrams crafted and that she found it moving, while reiterating that the film is respectful to the preceding eight movies in the series:

    Russell's enthusiasm continues to give off the impression that the cast and crew of this movie had a lot of fun with the challenge of developing a definitive ending for this films (at least for the foreseeable future, as the door will likely be open to tell stories of the continuing adventures of Rey and her friends). Russell has a history with working with Abrams (Felicity and Mission: Impossible III), so it will be fun to hear what is was like working with an old friend once again.



    Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker will officially arrive in theaters in the United States on December 20, 2019.



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    Oh, the mystery awakens... can't wait for the full trailer in October.
     
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    Maybe ZB could be an Aunt or Older sister. I'd say they do favor enough to fall into one of those categories.
     
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    What if Zorri was the one who dropped Rey off on Jakku to prevent Rey from being sold into slavery or something? Like she was a hired bounty hunter or something and found Rey abandoned on her home world and brought her to Jakku as being a junk trader would be better than a slave? Assuming Zorri is the same age as Keri Russell it makes sense chronologically for that to happen, as Zorri would have been in her early 20's at the time.
     
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    You can have so much fun with the possibilities.

    The ships look very, very similar the more you look at them. Could it be two different ones? Of course. We only have the one look at the rear of both, but they line up almost identically.

    Rey being from filthy junk traders who sold her off for drinking money, now dead in a pauper's grave in the Jakku desert, and her thus being a nobody - in the Star Wars world - could be true . . . from a certain point of view. The best and most influential lies are half truths.

    Bliss leaving a young Rey with Plutt on Jakku could be done for a myriad of reasons. The one that keeps coming to mind for me, however, is that she was left there so that 1) no one would find her and 2) few residents of the planet have the means to get information off the planet. It really is a perfect place to hide someone. One of the overarching subplots to Star Wars Rebels was the Emperor using the Inquisitors to round up force sensitives. Snoke, who may well be Palpatine, would (and should) be doing the same thing.

    So what if Zorri Bliss saved Rey from being taken by, say, the Knights of Ren or some equivalent that had a mission similar to the Inquisitors, and deliberately brought her to Jakku???
     
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    A very traditional way to handle these kind of plots is more or less...

    Bad guy orders a young child to be kidnapped/found.
    The person that accepts such task succeeds but has a change of heart once he/she realizes that the child is going to be killed and/or that whatever the bad guy told him/her to make the deal was a lie. Point being in any case that the child’s life is in jeopardy.
    He/she then fakes the death of the child and leaves the baby with someone else, before disappearing him/herself.

    And that’s my best guess about Zorri.
     
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    On the latest podcast show for Makingstarwars.net, they mentioned that it is *possible* that Mark Hammill shared filming a scene with Zorri. They didn’t mention this in the article because there was disagreement with their sources, but this info may complicate the whole “Rey” connection even more. I was in the camp that wanted Rey to be Luke’s daughter.
     
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    Rey's "adoptive" parents were filthy junk traders. Her real parents are Zorri Bliss (cough...Mara Jade... cough...) and Luke Skywalker.
     
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    I still don't think they'll make her a Skywalker. I think JJ will keep it established that Rey is not blood related to anyone
     
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    If that's the case, what is the reason behind Zorri's change of heart? What did she specifically drop off Rey on Jakku if she was like any other force sensitive child that was in danger of being taken?
     
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    My take:

    Rey’s parents are nobody, poor scavengers like herself. She remembers them and assumes it was them who left her with unkar plutt, as shown in the vision. The rational part of her brain tells her that she was sold, but she kids herself and chooses to remain hopeful, waiting in Jakku for his parents to return.

    Enters Kylo Ren in TLJ, who during the finger touching sees Rey’s parents as her rational, disappointed mind sees them: scavengers, poor, degraded people.

    Let’s forward to the post throne room fight. Kylo desperately wants to convince Rey to join him. He makes her admit her parents were “nobody” and he decides to make Rey devalue this poor family of hers even more by using a host of dismissive terms such as “drunk junk traders” and embellishing it all with the description of a most degrading fate: “laying dead in a paupers death in Jakku (a place described as a junk yard). Kylo is “off-script” here, reaching, just for effect, in order to convince Rey she should join him. Rey notices this and it dawns on her not only how far he is from redemption but also what an arrogant sod he really is. Thence her next move: Let’s take the Skywalker saber from this mofo and get outta here :D

    But what Rey and Kylo don’t know is that Zorri Bliss left little Rey with Unkat plutt in order to hide or save her from either the FO or the resistance. It has something to do with her force sensitivity.
     
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    I will add to the post above that the force vision Rey had of the ship leaving her on Jakku is a true version of events. In TFA she thought it meant her parents didn’t want her back. In TROS she will discover it was trying to tell her something else.
     
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    It could well be that Luke gave Rey to Zorri to hide prior to going into exile. This does not strike me as being very odd. Yoda did something similar with Luke after all. This would not be out of character from what we know of how the force works either. The force will find a way. So whether Luke disconnects from the force or not, if the force wills Rey to Luke - it will happen.

    What if she and Luke are the sole survivors of the Temple massacre, regardless if either or both were present. Luke would want to get her as far away, and as quickly as possible. Enter Zorri Bliss, who, for reasons unknown, chooses or is forced to choose Unkar Plutt and Jakku. . .

    Rey and Kylo's ages would seem to line up with this as a possibility, but this wouldnt work if the Temple massacre was at 28 ABY since that would make Kylo/Ben 23 and Rey 13 at the time. It would have to occured 5-10 years earlier to make Rey's marooning fit the timelines. I am not sure how set in cannon some of these dates are since the movie hasn't addressed the timing specifically.
     
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    That would make sense considering Kylo's reaction in TFA when he hears about a girl having the droid on Jakku. "What girl?" is a very knowing and loaded question.
     
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    This theory might have credibility if not for two key facts:
    1) the First Order didn't emerge from the Unknown Regions until after the events of the novel "Bloodline", which take place 6 years before TFA and TLJ, and by that point, Rey had been on Jakku for almost a decade if not longer

    2) Snoke and Ben/Kylo didn't become aware of Rey until the events of TFA

    It's possible that Zorri - or at least her ship - could have a connection to Rey's vision, but it can't and won't be what people are speculating.
     
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    What if, some things were left unresolved and shrouded in mystery?
     
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    There’s the chance that a rumor we heard about, may fit nicely a scenario like the one I described above

    I am talking about the Oracle creature. Because there’s one thing that I believe should be pointed out.
    That thing being... what is an Oracle in the first place.
    Someone who gives answers to questions (quite often in riddles) and someone who sometimes spells... prophecies.

    If that’s the case, Ren may be looking for the very same Oracle that years ago was interrogated by the very same bad guy who ordered Rey to be kidnapped and brought to him (Snoke for istance).

    That because the oracle foresaw that a girl was supposed to be a danger for whatever plan the bad guy had.

    So he orders her to be found. Zorry finds the girl (Rey) but when she understands that the child would be killed (or when she’s ordered to kill the girl) she changes her heart and fakes Rey death. The bad guy believes the lie and Zorri disappears.

    Ren knows about that girl and he’s wondering if she’s really dead or if she survived and if she’s Rey.

    So he goes to the Oracle.
     
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    Doesn't work because of timelines.

    Rey is born when Ben Solo is 10, and appears to be around 5 years old in the vision we see in TFA ; at that point, his Fall to the Dark Side is still over a decade away, as is the emergence of the First Order.

    People are continuing to try and interpret the things that Rey saw in her first Force Vision literally and simultaneously trying to find some way to "will" The Last Jedi's revelations about her into inaccuracy.
     
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    Maybe I should have said better, but that’s not a issue at all.
    What I was talking about does not require for Ben/Kylo to be already turned to dark side when that happened.

    What it does require is only that he knows (now) that something of this sort had happened in the past. Because someone (Snoke for instance or someone else) told him after Snoke’s death or shortly prior to that and/or TFA...
     
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