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Scarif, Alderaan, Jedah, and the Death Star

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Pobody's Nerfect, Jun 25, 2017.

  1. Pobody's Nerfect

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    A while back I asked if the people of Alderaan could see the death Star. The tl;dr conclusion was that they probably could not.

    Let's compare the blasting of Alderaan to the destruction of the base on Scarif and Jedha and see what's different.

    Here's two pics of Alderaan -

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    Here's the Death Star from Scarif -
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    And here's Director Krennic looking out the view port -
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    Obviously the Death Star is closer to Jedah and Scarif than it was to Alderaan. Considering the Death Star is manned by stormtroopers it's really amazing they were able to hit Alderaan on their first try (stormtrooper)

    I'm assuming that the power of the Alderaan shot required a lot of distance between the Death Star and its target to keep the battle station safe from exploding debris and planetary shrapnel. The smaller shots used against Jedah and Scarif didn't have enough power to blow large parts of the planet out of the planet's gravity well, so the Death Star could be much closer and still be safe.
     
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    Why wouldn't they be able to see the Death Star?

    Alderran is said to be approx 12,500 km and the Death Star is approx 150,000 km. I would think from the picture shown of the planet through the viewport that if Alderran was that big and viewable that the inhabitants on the the side of Alderran facing the Death Star would have been able to see it.

    Unless of course the viewport picture is just a zoomed in feed of Aderran. If it was further in space then I would imagine someone would assume it's just another star out there.

    Now I always assumed the last photo with Director Kernnic and Jedah, that it was a zoomed in feed of the explosion.


    So even though I stated my opinion on that matter based off what you provided and a little research. Are you trying to start a debate about it, do you agree with what others are saying, do you have a different opinion? That part of your post was unclear.
     
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    The Death Star is 160 KM
     
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    I stand corrected....big error on my behalf.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 25, 2017, Original Post Date: Jun 25, 2017 ---
    Big error on my behalf....I stand corrected.
     
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    I would say it would have been visible to the naked eye, but very faint and small, unnoticeable. It's daytime on that particular side of the planet. The Death Star is the size of a small moon. The surface of the Death Star is dark and non reflective. Unlike our moon, which is silvery and reflective, barely visible during the day. The question then is, was the DS within Alderaan's orbit. If not, it would've been even less noticeable.

    The reason the DS appeared larger on Jeddah/Scarif is becase they were closer. They used half power, and they needed to get closer to accurately destroy those specific cities, not the entire planet.
     
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    The planet Scarif will be well remembered for it's great battle & the greatest data heist in this galaxy.
     
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    I think we already know what happened on Alderaan, from Obi-Wan:

    "I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."

    It sounds like they saw it coming but only for an instant.
     
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    Sort of like what Finn felt....
     
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    The Death Star diameter is 160 KM.
    Earth's moon's diameter is 3474 KM.

    This page references the approximate distance of the Death Star from Alderran. I've heard a few thousand km to as high as 2 million km, but 75,000 seems to be a consistent and reasonable answer. That's a little close than the moon to earth, but not so much that it makes up the difference of how "small" the Death Star is.

    So ultimately, the Death Star would've been significantly smaller appearing than the moon in the sky. Furthermore, it was probably less reflective, and I'm sure the Empire could actively try to position themselves in an area that would be difficult to detect.
     
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    I hope he's homeworld doesn't get destroyed.
     
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