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Sequel trilogy is just a cash grab + doesn't need to exist. The story has already been told

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by VOODOO, Jul 23, 2015.

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    If Lucas really said there was no more story to tell, then why on earth did he claim Disney throughout his treatments for the sequel trilogy?

    And so what if the ST is about money? If people like what they're getting, then why is that bad?

    You don't think Lucas saw the potential to make a lot of money when he brought Darth Maul back to life?
     
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    This is Luke's NEPHEW we're talking about. Not some mere apprentice whom he barely knew. I'm not saying that it's improbable that Luke would do something like this. I think it's improbable, given what we know of Luke's personal history, that he would do something like this to his own nephew without confronting the latter first.
     
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    I totally agree with this - they just don't make sense and come across as Hollywood cliches, instead of something beautiful from the original Star Wars Universe. A Hollywood action film but with lightsabers and blasters instead of guns. Nothing beautiful in these new movies
     
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    This is true, but I have never looked at SW as the Rebels vs Empire or now the Resistance vs First order. Just as I don't look at TLJ as the Resistance trying to evade the First Order for 2 hours, as SW has always been about the personal story for me.

    I think the @VOODOO original point was that the PT/OT was really about Luke redeeming his father told through 6 movies. If the movies were just about Rebels vs The Empire, it would have no heart and just be another War movie that is entertaining. So his whole point is that there shouldn't have been any more sequels essentially because there is no story to tell after Luke redeems his father, as THAT is the story. I have my problems with the execution of the PT movies, but I don't deny that the story is well crafted by Lucas in that respect for a true arc.

    Now many have talked about Lucas originally talking about 9 movies, and they are correct on that. But I think he would have delayed the plot point of Luke redeeming Vader until Episode 9, and THEN there would be more story to tell for 7 and 8.

    So I do agree with you that there is never 'true' peace in the world as there is always another threat, but SW goes deeper then that as the movies aren't really about that as they are just the backdrop story, the true story he is talking about is Luke redeeming his father in ROTJ.
     
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    Most movies are either cash grabs or Oscar bait. And then there are those rare examples of movies being made for art's sake. Whether they are bad or good . . . well, that's up to the movie goer.

    Luke didn't redeem his father. Anakin made the decision to turn his back on Palpatine and evil on his own. And aside from a few minutes near the end of "ROTS", Luke wasn't in the PT.
     
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    I started this thread on July 15th, 2015. I couldn’t have been more on the money. Everything I said was correct. There was no reason for these films to exist. They didn’t add anything, in fact they have actually taken away from the overall story and it’s legendary characters.

    The story of Star Wars was complete in the first six episodes. This new trilogy feels tacked on and unnecessary.
     
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    Your original implied notion that the Star Wars films are "artistic" endeavors and not at all about making money is quite simply ludicrous. 20th Century Fox put up 10 million dollars for A New Hope with the expectation that it could bring in $20-30 million at the box office in a similar return as the Planet of The Apes movies. To their delight, it became a megahit and made $400 million. The film quickly embraced merchandising and made tens of millions more in toys and other products. The sequels mades hundreds of millions more and the merchandising was even more expansive. The prequels continued in the same vein in terms of box office haul and were merchandised to death as well. And yet, for some reason, the sequel trilogy is the first set of Star Wars films ever made with the shocking notion of making money off of them? Um... no.

    As for the story being "tacked on" and "unnecessary" - this suggests that Star Wars is limited to telling the story of Anakin Skywalker, and that anything that happens after his death does not need to be told and that nothing interesting in this vast galaxy ever happens once this SOB kicks the bucket. What an amazingly limited way to view the vastness and diversity of this fantastic universe. They are PLENTY of good stories that can be told that don't have to reference Space Jesus Anakin Skywalker all the time. I, quite frankly, am GLAD we are getting away from him and we can finally start to branch out into newer territory, rather be forever constrained to the Skywalker clan.
     
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