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"Several transmissions were beamed to THIS ship"

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by BaronSoontirFel, Dec 16, 2016.

  1. BaronSoontirFel

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    What am I missing with this part of the transition from RO to ANH?
    In ANH Vader is all "where them transmissions at that was beamed here?"
    In RO they physically transfer the data through the door to the Tantive 4. Looks like the same disc Leigh shoves into R2's data hole.
    My man Darth straight up said this moments after literally watching the rebel dude slip the plans through the crack in the door. Why he didnt say "where that disc my shish-kabob gave you?"

    Iz it the locations of OBWans? That makes better sense for continuity.
     
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    They were beamed to the Mon Cal ship maybe Vader believed they were beamed straight to the IV. He may not have understood what the guy was holding. It is a bit of a continuity issue. They should have just beamed them straight to the IV.
     
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    Simple explanation: Vader knew it was the Tantive IV carrying the discs since the Tantive IV would likely be transmitting back and forth with other ships and the Rebel leadership that they were in receipt of the plans. "Several transmissions" would seem to refer that there was significant traffic between Tantive IV and Leia and the Rebel leadership.

    I personally dont see a continuity issue with this.
     
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    My take on it: in the movie, the plans were transmitted to the bigger ship first and then they were physically brought to Leia. Maybe the lines are meant to reference this?
     
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    SCENE: TANTIVE IV CORRIDOR, 0 BBY

    LEIA: "This is an Imperial counsellor ship on an diplomatic mission to Ald...."
    VADER: (interrupts) "..which I just witnessed flying out of the bottom hangar bay of the Rebel Flagship that I captured some hours ago. The licence plate matches too..."
    LEIA: "Well... err... you got me there... *gulp* "

    ;)
     
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    No continunity issue. Because the plans were not found on the ships database/maincomputer....So the plans were never transmitted to the Tantive IV...
     
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    Yeah he might not have even SEEN the disk since it was so small and just assumed that they were just trying to desperately escape.
     
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    Vader didn't see it? The blind dude in the movie haz more force?
     
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    This bothered me as well until I thought about it. The Tantive IV was docked with the Mon Cal that received the plans making them one in the same to Vader. The plans were then downloaded from the Mon Cal computer and physically handed off until it finally made it onto the Tantive IV and blasted away from Vader.

    SO technically, Leia was correct when she said "I don't know what you're talking about....", in reference to Vader saying "several transmissions were beamed to this ship by Rebel Spies". When in actuality she had a hard copy hand delivered and then transferred into R2.
     
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    Vader: "Several transmissions were beamed to this ship by rebel spys"
    Leia: "Well technically they were beamed to a bigger ship that we were docked with, and then brought on board physically..."
    Vader: "You damn well know what I mean!"

    Seriously though people don't always say exactly what they mean when they talk, or spell out every detail. I don't see an issue with it.
     
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    The transmissions line doesn't have to exclusively refer to the plans. We all know what a transmission is, right? :D
     
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    I'm not going to try and explain this one away. It was a bit of sloppy continuity, no question about it.

    That said, I enjoyed the movie enough that I'm not having a lick of trouble overlooking a few little rough seams like this.
     
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    From ehat I remember he was chasing the rebels
    yup probably just a blanket term that COULD have meant a potential plans from what he though .
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    "Head canon" is definitely required for this one. I can only remind myself that Gareth and the writers knew full well what Vader said in ANH and chose this path anyway... so there must be a reason. Vader generalizing the specifics could make a bit of sense.
     
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    Vader generalizing the specifics could mean the escape of the Tantive IV from the Commando ship was too fast for any imperial sensors to pick up what ship it was on detail....Vader only sees a cor. Corvette....He is a hunter. He sniffs them out his way.

    Or there were transmissions but not the kind he assumes. Radio chatter. Coordinates...something different than plans.
     
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    They may not have been beamed directly to the IV, but it was docked on the ship that did get them. Also, I don't believe he captured the IV DIRECTLY after they took off. The IV had to have gotten away then got captured later. Why else would Leia try to convince Vader that she was on a "Diplomatic Mission"? Also, we have to remember that when they did get captured, they were over Tattooine and not Scarif.
     
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    Plus Vader was probably a little out of sorts being so close to his homeworld, where his mother died, etc. etc. lol
     
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    How did all the Death Star data stored on that big hard drive manage to fit onto the smaller square "tape" disk? Was zip filing involved?!

    Seriously though, maybe the larger hard drive had such a large data capacity that the Death Star plans only required a small portion of its memory capacity?
    ;)
     
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    My take on this, (which echoes several others here), is that Darth Vader did not know that the Death Star plans were handed off through the jammed door. He was busy with indiscriminatelly besting random rebel mariens and had he know that the one at the door carried the plans, well, then he would surelly have attacked that man instead of randomly lashing out as he does in that narrow corridor. It would have been as easily as force choke/lifting the dude away form the door (like he did with another marine) or simply to force snapp the floppy disc out of the guy's hands. In conclusion, there is NO WAY Darth Vader knew the stolen blueprints to the Emperor's pet WMD technological terror machine was being passed through the crack in the door, and he probably honestly believed that the plans were beamed onboard Tantive IV.
     
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    The scene is essentially Vader CHASING the plans all the way to the Tantive IV. Otherwise the scene makes no sense. HE KNOWS the plans will be smuggled away via another ship since the Mon Cal was disabled. I'm betting communications are jammed from leaving the system, so the only logical way to get the plans to the Rebel base would be another ship, which is why he was trying to stop the Tantive IV.

    Here's what else we know...
    • Jyn transmitted a signal to the fleet once the shield gate was destroyed.
    • When Jyn flipped the switch and uploaded the plans, it was Raddus ship that intercepted the signal and downloaded.
    • The Empire disabled Raddus ship and Vader took a shuttle and Stormtroopers and boarded it. Vader appears to know which ship has them.
    • The Rebels downloaded the plans from the Mon Cal main computer.
    • Vader chased the Rebel's all the way to the docked Tantive IV. He is too late and the ship blasts away, Vader watching.
    • In ANH, Vader KNOWS that ship HAS the plans.
    • STORMTROOPER: "The Death Star plans are not in the main computer".
    • VADER (to Capt. Antilles): "Where are those transmissions you intercepted, what have you done with those plans?"
    • VADER: "Commander tear this ship apart until you find those plans...."
    • He knows there is a physical copy of the plans aboard the ship. He is then told "the battle station plans are not aboard this ship and no transmissions were made, an escape pod was jettisoned during the fighting..."

    So from Vader's point of view, they were transmitted and/or a physical copy was aboard the Tantive IV. Which is why they were looking in the main computer AND for a physical disk.
     
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