Shots that Haven't Aged Well

Nah, that would mean that Hayden Christensen was real too. And we all know he was just an elaborate special effect created by the technical wizards at ILM.

 

maybe this weekend they will announce a new special edition.

 

They legally can't without GL's approval

 

Really??? How do you know this?

 

They bought the rights to make new films, not to Piffer around with someone else's movies and pass them off as their own.

 

Well Disney owns Lucasfilm...Lucasfilm owns Star Wars...so it seems that they could do whatever they want. (i know 20th Century Fox is mixed up in there too)
How do we know they can't piffer around with the movies? Where is the source that says they'd need George's approval?

 

What Lucas sold to Disney was the intellectual property of Star Wars - all the nouns: people, places, things. All the stuff from the movies (and beyond) but not the movies themselves, because those aren’t his to sell. Those still belong to Fox. A re-re-re-re-release isn’t impossible, but it’s not something Lucasfilm can up and do on their own. The two studios would need to work together, which is a somewhat dubious idea for most.

 

Fox has distribution to I-VI. Their distribution rights to the PT and Empire and Jedi will end in a couple years. So they could do something then. Or now, I don't see why FOX would be adverse to making a bunch of money off of distributing an SE of the PT. ILM would be doing all the work, all Fox has to do is print out a bunch of disks.
I'm more curious about the idea that there is something in the contract that won't allow them to make any changes to I-VI. They apparently didn't care about tossing George's treatments for the ST. What's keeping them from putting a fresh coat of paint on the PT? George himself did it for the Bluray release.
It's probably just not worth it to them. Who know's what the analytics are on how many they would actually sell. But I wouldn't be surprised if the did something for the inevitable 4K release.

Sorry! I veered WAY off topic in this thread!

 

The shot of Luke falling in empire...

 

One shot that really bugs me nowadays is the fake looking CGI storm troopers that George Lucas insisted on adding to the scene where they find the droid's escape pod.


It doesn't look quite as bad in a still shot like this, but it looks awful in motion, especially as they walk straight towards the viewer. I never noticed it as much a few years ago, but watching this scene on blu-ray on a modern high definition television set is really jarring. It kinda rips me straight out of the movie for a moment.

Also, the fruit eating scene from Episode II has always really bugged me, even from the first viewing. Here's a humorous vid someone made of the scene continuously repeating on YouTube.

I thought this scene was fake looking even on my first viewing of the movie years ago. Has George never seen someone take a bite out of a piece of fruit before? Seriously, it looks awful. Being part of the awful romance scenes in the movie doesn't do it any favors either.

 

All but ANH will be up in 2020. Unless Fox decides to sell, Ep4 belongs to them until the dollar collapses or the sun explodes. Editing movies (especially VFX) isn’t an inexpensive task. It would cost LFL a small fortune in man hours alone. They’d have to be certain they’d turn a worthy profit for their expense. Marketing (print and advertising) isn’t cheap either. Who pays for what? Who keeps what percentage of the sales? It’s a dicey proposition, but one made by people smarter and greedier than me, so anything’s possible

I know George made comments well before the Disney deal that he’d taken precautions to safeguard his films from tampering. But that was then and this is now. Maybe he had a specific provision added to the sale that covered this eventuality. It’s the sort of thing he’d do, but also total speculation.

Hey, where there’s a wallet, there’s a way.

Content rights are something that haven’t aged well too

 

Not sure why this "kinda rips" you out of the film but you should know that those two troopers are not CGI but real actors in real costumes. If I remember correctly, there's a feature on the blu-ray about it. Check it out next time you're watching the film on your "modern high definition television set".

 

Ah, apparently you're right, doesn't change how out of place they look though being badly green screened into the shot though. Additionally, they aren't even movie appropriate, as they are modeled after RotJ storm troopers rather than ANH troopers. Also, the weathering doesn't look right on them either, they just look completely out of place, almost like their sequence was shot decades after the original movie .

As for my reaction, I don't see how you are bothered about it in the first place. We all have things that pull us out of movies and badly inserted special effects are one of mine. You can be annoyed by it and respond with condescending use of quotation marks, but it doesn't change the fact that most of us feel it looks bad.

 

No, me old mucker, I am right. And what's really funny is your subsequent dogged attempt to further defend your stand point by grasping at every reason you can think of in an effort to ptoce you were right all along. There are few things sadder than someone being proven wrong on an issue and, instead of simply accepting it with a dose of humility, still clinging to their originall point of view, not realising just how ridiculous it can make them appear. So desperate are you that you then drag the world and his dog into your argument with the somewhat weak (and, of course, totally unfounded) plea that "most of us feel it looks bad". It's almost as though, I don't know, you don't like being told you're wrong or something.

 

Actually the first thing I did was admit you were right. The rest was to backup why the scene is still jarring and badly handled. You can continue to be insulting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that the scene still doesn't fit well in the film, as is the case with most of the stuff that George added.

Instead of attacking me, why don't you tell me why the scene is actually a good addition to the movie.

Also, you haven't been paying attention to these forums for very long if you don't think most people have a problem with the special edition changes. There's a reason that a huge chunk of the Star Wars community wants an unaltered cut of the original releases to be released by Disney.

As for being told I'm wrong, I'm perfectly happy to accept correction, but like most people, I prefer it be done in a less snide manner, I don't think that should be a surprising revelation.

 

Begrudgingly.

Because - and here's a "revelation" for you - the thread is titled: Shots That Have't Aged Well.

Yawn.

 

And in your reply you could tell me why the shot has aged well then.

 

I think the point here is...that whole scene (including the poorly composited Troopers and including the CGI dewbacks w/ riders) was and still is a bit (or a bunch) off the mark. It's one of those SE changes that seems completely unnecessary. There's no reason to get hateful over it. That leads to the Dark Side.

 

Most general contracts with directors is that you need their approval to make changes to the initial cut