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Should it have completely new characters no spinoffs

Discussion in 'General Stand-Alone Movie Discussion' started by LarsSkywalker, Apr 29, 2016.

  1. LarsSkywalker

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    What original ideas can you think of for the 2020 movie that wouldn't feature spinoffs of main characters like Han, Boba or Obi Wan?
     
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    What if it focuses on the dark energy from outside of the galaxy that ends up clouding the Jedi and producing Snoke .
     
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    Just all new characters, must like they did with Lost Stars or Rebels. Same time periods, maybe similar events. New planets and how they might be effected by changes in the governments.
     
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    I would like to see either something in the Old Republic era (the origins of the Jedi, the origins of the Sith, or about Darth Bane) or something in the intermediate era between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens since there isn't much there and it would be nice to see more of that period. Especially as we have no visual forms of storytelling from that time period (not counting Rey's vision), unlike between Sith and A New Hope.

    Personally, I'm not to terribly interested in most character based films. I would much rather see new stories away from the films or that tie into them without relying on old faces (much like what Rogue One seems to be).
    The few characters I would like to learn more about (Dooku as I still don't care about him since we never get any real character out of him outside general Christopher Lee-ness, even after The Clone Wars) would be more suited for a book like Tarkin.

    Also, I wouldn't mind a film about the many Bothans who died to get the second Death Star plans. They could call it Rogue Two!

    You do know there is a canon explanation about how the Jedi were clouded, right?:
    And this is from a Canon page, not a Legends page.
    So yeah, the Jedi screwed up big time. What a shocker.
     
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    I would love to see much more of how the SW underworld operates. Even with everything we know, we have seen so little of the Hutts or Black Sun and we have never seen the Bounty Hunter Guild or a Smugglers group in a movie. Here we can know much more of the SW galaxy that doesn't involve Jedi/Sith, Rebelion/Empire or Resistance/First Order. We would also get to see many interesting new characters while getting to know more about old time favorites like Bossk, Nabrun Leids, BoShek or Garindan.
     
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    It'll be hard to get lots of people to show up for films on all new characters. Star Wars already has so many iconic characters that deserve their own solo films that I don't think you have to make the spinoffs centered around new ones.
     
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    I wonder if some of that may be covered in the Han Solo film.
     
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    They tried that once in the EU it was called "The crystal Star"
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    You mean all the most boring aspects of Star Wars?
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    Well thats... close minded, and it defeats the purpose of even having spinoffs if you are going to just ignore the vast potential of the universe and navel gaze at what already exists.
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    Here is teh film I want, I want a Star Wars Knights of the Old Repuiblic film.

    Take the characters from the Tales of the Jedi comics, take the tone and technology from the Kotor games, and tell teh story of the schism that seperated the Jedi and the Sith. I know that it would heavily alter the canon, but I think consolidating a lot of these schisms from the EU would help matters.

    I would write it so that the first Sith Lord was Exar Kun, who took the name Darth Ruin... but that is just me :T

    it would be a big complex movie, with tons of lightsabers, big huge war scenes, and yeah... hell yeah I would use CGI to show as much over the top and awesome force abilities as I can.

    I am sick of them being like
    Jedi/Sith: the force is all powerful and gives you unlimited power
    Me: you gonna do anything with that power?
    Jedi/Sith: no...
    Me: really?
    Jedi/Sith: fine... *lifts a rock* powaaaaaaa
     
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    That would be very interesting indeed my friend. :)
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    Maybe for you it may be boring my friend but if you have ever read any non-Jedi/Sith novels then you would know that SW is much more interesting than simple laser sword wielding guys. Books like Tales of the Bounty Hunters and Tales from Jabba the Hutts palace are real cool as are novels about Han Solo and Boba Fett. Red Harvest and Death Troopers are also really good if you like your SW with a little horror in it and if you have watched CW then you would also know that some of the coolest episodes were those that didn't have any Jedi/Sith in them. If this is not your thing then you are going to be pretty disappointed with Rogue One and many of the other upcoming films that won't have any lightsabers in them.
     
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    I have read them, they are much more varied in quality than the Jedi-centric stuff. (which tended to veer towards middle of the road quality)

    My thing is that hte force is something real in the star wars universe, and its effects should permiate and effect every aspect of society. The lack of underworld force users is a consistently aggravating aspect too me.

    Personally my favorite episodes of TCW were clone-based ones.

    And I am actully very excited about Rogue One... I like the war stuff :/ I do not like the underworld stuff, because its so devoid of one fo the defining aspects of the universe.

    A few interesting exceptions include the hutt from the new SW comic, and the Seyugi Dervishes... aslo that underground force user fight club from that one maul comic
     
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    I think everything can be enjoyed if it is well done. It's true that just dwelling in the monetary, stealing and blackmailing aspects of the underworld could turn out to be really boring, but combined with other aspects I think it could work out well. Bounty Hunters are one of my favorite type of characters in the SW galaxy and while many of them do indeed have dealings with the underworld, many are very unique characters that can be very interesting if Disney knows how to use them. Darth Plagueis is a character that I like very much and while he is indeed a Sith, it was his underworld connections, his scientific persue of immortality, his sly way of making deals and manipulating others and his vast knowledge of how to conduct buisness that got me hooked with him. Sure, having him be a Sith is cool, but if said character were have been made as a Bounty Hunter or even a regular bad guy and not a Sith, I woould have still found him to be awesome as it is these aspects that make him so interesting.
     
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    Bounty hunters can be a lot of fun in star wars... or rather... they were, until every single one of them had to be a Mandolorian.

    Diversity is key to Star Wars, but when things become hyperfocused on archetypes that is when things got boring, and for me the underworld aspects of Star Wars suffered the most from this... teh bad stuff falling much further into the "bad" category than the typical bad jedi stuff would in my opinion.

    Take for example the fact taht in Star Wars

    Smugglers = Good Guys
    Bounty Hunters = Bad Guys

    Almost every time, and its a completely BS representation of what these things should be. There should be good smugglers, and bad smugglers, good bounty hunters and bad bounty hunters. And on top of this there is a third pillar to underworld type shows that make them more compelling that is often absent from Star Wars for seemingly no reason (unless you count the jedi)

    That would be the "law enforcement" pillar, do you think Breaking Bad would be as good if every character was a criminal???

    And as I said before, Star Wars has the force as an aspect of story telling and it is not capitalized upon enough in the underworld fiction of the franchise.

    Imagine how good a Star Wars story would be, based around an... Echani bounty hunter, who is tracking down a human trafficker, but is competing for this bounty with another Bounty Hunter from the Seyugi Dervishes... a force using cult of assassins.

    That would be freaking awesome but they do not have the stomach to do something so radically breaking the tropes and archetypes that they have established within Star Wars.
     
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    1 thing I can c r Disney overlords doing is a movie wear a family is on Alderaan. DS-1 apears. The father knows what he must do as he takes his kids and runs for the family ship & blasts off. Mom left in a separation a few years back.

    Alderaan's shield let's ships out but not in. They escape with seconds to spare. Father joins the Rebels. Later he finds out his wife joined the GE!

    I can c them doing that if they start running out of ideas.
     
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    "Wish granted." - Rian Johnson
     
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    True, but Rian's trilogy isn't going to part of the Anthology series. It's going to be something new, set apart from both the Episodes and the Anthologies.
     
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    It's functionally an Anthology Trilogy in and of itself.
     
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    Rogue Two would work for me.

    If it's completely unrelated, personally, I would like to see some other order or Force Users. Something completely new but sill in line of how the Force works in the GFFA.
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    I agree in that I too, want a KOTOR trilogy!!
     
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    Why? Ever since Bob Iger first announced the anthology series in 2013, they have been specifically called "standalone stories". Last time I checked, a standalone consists of one single story, not multiple archs. The word "anthology" actually means collection of individual stories.

    Besides, there's no such word as "anthology trilogy". An anthology is a collection, it can never be a trilogy. And if an anthology consists of three stories, you wouldn't call it an anthology in the first place - you'd call it a trilogy.

    So, it's very very very very safe to assume that Rian Johnson's trilogy will be its own separate thing. There's really no argument here, why even make a fuss about it?
     
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    I’m not sure if it was completely new characaters. I mean it would be intriguing but it would probably do terrible at box office. As it would be a completely new character no one would of had any knowledge of even have the slightest connection to.
     
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    I think all standalone's that take place in-between the saga films (or shortly before or afterwards) should have some sort of familiarity.

    Imagine Rogue One without Tarkin, Vader, Mon Mothma, Bail Organa, Saw Gerrera, etc.
     
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