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Should Lightsabers be exclusive to Jedi/Sith?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Jedi Master Kalu, Dec 4, 2014.

  1. Jedi Master Kalu

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    I had a little friendly debate with my professor recently about lightsabers. He was under the impression that only Jedi/Sith used lightsabers because you had to be force sensitive to ignite them (like a Holocron). But when I told him that anybody could grab a lightsaber and turn it on, but they couldn't wield it properly like a Jedi/Sith in combat. He then lost a lot of respect for the movies because according to him even if you couldn't wield it in combat it was still an effective utility and more people should have them just as tools and not for combat purposes. I must admit he has a point, and I feel like that this needs to be addressed.

    I know originally the lightsaber was a super heavy weapon (like Thor's hammer) that only and Jedi/Sith could wield because they used the force to compensate, but that was scraped and the weapon became nearly weightless. That partially makes sense in regards to why only Jedi/Sith use it in combat but that alone wouldn't really stop people from using the weapon as a tool/utility (so long as you keep the blade in front of you).

    Because I like the idea of the blade being weightless and elegant, I would leave that aspect unchanged. I would just replace the trigger ignition concept with one that requires the user to be force sensitive (like a Holocron). That way it justifies why non force sensitives don't buy them off the black market.

    Unless we are willing to drop the idea of Jedi/Sith being the only ones with lightsabers. That's my take, but I want to hear everyone else's opinion on the subject.
     
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    I think only Jedi/Sith should have them or they loose their unique-ness. If every Joe-Schmoe running around the galaxy had a lightsaber it certainly would make them less special.
     
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    I agree with you but the current concept of the weapon really doesn't justify why they are exclusive. I think it should be addressed.
     
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    But how is Han Solo supposed to hack open a tauntaun if the Force is required to ignite the saber?! ;)
     
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    I know! lol I thought about that right after I posted this, that's why I left it open for discussion. Maybe someone can come up with a concept that doesn't contradict that scene.
     
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    The only two ways I would accept someone non jedi/sith using one is;

    A. In a Han Solo rescues Luke from freezing to Death type of situation. (to be clear, not necessarily those two characters)

    B. Someone finds one (NOT more than that one someone!), lost for many years perhaps, and tries to learn how it works. It could be interesting this one time, but shouldn't be done to the point of it loosing it's mysique.
     
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    Now the fact the you have to use the force to build the weapon limits who could build these weapons. But, I could see people grave robbing for them.
     
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    That's right, @Jedi Master Kalu. I was thinking more of the hundreds that must have been lost through all the Jedi dying in various remote systems during, for example, the clone wars. Theoretically a lot of sabers could have been looted from jedi corpses/or just lying around in the same Place the jedi died. That being said, a lot of sabers could be in the posession of various non jedi/sith.
     
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    And then you have Grievous. He isn't a force user but wields lightsabers like it's going out of style.


    And it did right after he died actually haha.
     
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    Haha @DarthDwight

    Forgot about that one. Never really thought of him as very memorable anyway. My least favourite PT villain.
     
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    Less than Sebulba and that Pit Droid who kicked Jar Jar in the balls?!
     
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    Sebulba is pretty awesome in my opinion, maybe because I thought he looked really cool when, as a nine year old, I saw him for the first time.

    And anyone who kicks JJ... ehrm.. Sorry, Jar Jar, in the balls deserves a medal!
     
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    I think the best thing to do is assume that the number of Jedi/Sith throughout galactic history since the invention of lightsabers have never exceeded 1 million. Most of the sabers pre purge were recovered by the Jedi order and locked away in the temple, same for the Sith. Perhaps a dedicated grave robber may have made his way to Moriband (I still like Korriban waaaaaaay better but whatever lol) and recovered an ancient Sith lightsaber and armor...
     
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    First of all I always thought that the tech of a lightsaber was no different than the tech of a blaster. They both used lasers, just in different ways. That is why a lightsaber is able to stop a blaster bolt in the same way a lightsaber is able to stop another lightsaber. The difference being that when a lighsaber stops a blaster bolt, the bolt deflects away because there is nothing physically holding or controlling the blaster bolt, where as when a lightsaber stops another lightsaber there is someone physically controlling both sabers so they just don't go flying off.

    Lightsabers were obsolete and useless in a normal persons hands. It makes no sense for a normal person to use a lightsbaer as a weapon because they wouldn't be able to use the Force while using the lightsaber to deflect oncoming laser fire and to use the weapon precisely enough not to cut their own arms off. Without the Force to help wield the weapon, the person using it is just a sitting duck to oncoming blaster fire...

    Just like today's standards, who's going to use a samurai sword (no matter how good they are) in today's day and age of automatic weapons...

    Is there a practical use for the technology? I am sure there was, there's just no need for us to see it.
     
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    In the wise words of Han Solo, "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side kid..."

    This is great, It's good to hear other opinions on the matter.
     
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    I presumed that lightsabres were weapons that gentlemen/women carried (analogs of military duelling sabres); polished and hung proudly from the belt and only drawn to settle personal affairs in one-two-one combats ... any gratuitous activation beyond combat and ceremony would be considered a symptom of a crude and undisciplined personality. They are long out of fashion and probably once used by a wider array of characters, including non-Force users, but Force-sensitives with training could perform amazing stunts with them. Because they have usage other than combat (as cutting tools and as attractive religious artifacts with their iconography and unique hilt construction), the Jedi found lightsabres to be useful and also an attractive device to use as a focus during training and meditation - the energy beam and its crystal resonated with the Force unlike blaster-bolts.

    The Sith inverted the symbolism of the Jedi lightsabre and made certain their red-bladed 'mirror' was used to reinforce their fearful and destructive agendas and employed it far more frequently.
     
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    Logically, yes, depending also on how rare are the crystals?

    Commercially, no, as it seperates those with the force from those without it.

    That said, I always loved the concept of the original Stormtroopers with Lightsabers and laser shields, to the point where I fit lightsabers to some of my Stormtrooper figures.
     
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    I would suspect that when jedi died during the clone wars the Clone troopers would have picked up their lightsabers and the same during the order 66 purge. Before that I'm sure the jedi would have recovered them if at all possible. After that Vader and the inquisitor would keep the blades... perhaps the emperor had a bunch of them in storage or more likely they were destroyed to prevent others from obtaining them. Since a lightsaber has to be constructed using the force this would have kept the supply available to the public at large very low. Also they are not very useful outside of the use of Jedi or Sith. So why would anyone want one? They are cool and could be a status symbol but Joe Q Galactic Public wouldn't have a use for them that couldn't be done BETTER with a different tool.
     
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    I thought it was because light saber crystals were extremely rare is it not? That the locations of the crystals were mostly hidden by the jedi and that not every Tom, Dick, and Harry could just go grab one and make a Light saber.
     
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