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Should the Republic Fleet have been shown?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Darth Chewie, Apr 3, 2016.

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    During the sequence where the Hosnian System is destroyed by Starkiller Base, would have seeing a more detailed shot of the massive Republic fleet been a better visual to help us understand the gravity of what just happened?

    I have mentioned on other posts that a line of dialogue stating the Republics nonchalant attitude towards the FO would have made their destruction that much more devastating, as it would have happened at the hands of their own ignorance.

    However, I can't help but feel that seeing a more 'close-up shot' of the many Republic capital ships that were obviously destroyed, would have given the audience a better feel for just how alone the Resistance has now become. We all get that a government was destroyed, but I don't get a sense that the audience understands they just witnessed a massive "Military" victory!

    I've uploaded a pic of Hosnian Prime just before the beam hits it. You can see ships in orbit, but they are so small and the sequence moves so fast, that many in fact would not have picked out that those little blobs in orbit were actually ships. And yes I am aware that the fleets destruction is alluded to twice; once by Hux in his Hitler speech, and then again by C-3P0. It just seems odd to me, that for a movie where it's writers relied so heavenly on visual story telling, that they never bothered to show this in more detail.

    Anyway, just another nit pick on a movie that I absolutely loved and enjoyed!
     

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    Absolutely.
    One of the few things I didn't like about TFA was, that there wasn't enough "world building". In general I would have loved to see some newly formed Republic stuff.
    Showing the republic fleet would have been a legit way to establish the strength of the New Republic.

    I really hope we will see some republik stuff in EP8. Maybe the remains of the republic fleet.^^
     
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    I think there's something in one of "Before the Awakening" books about how the republics treaty with the fo was hat they wouldn't have a big fleet or anything so seeing a small fleet go down wouldn't have been as big of an impact unless they were involved directly with the SKB battle .
     
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    Not 100% sure, but I think it was the FO, that was not allowed to have a large fleet.
     
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    yes, it was the FO who were not allowed to have a fleet, which is why Poe is so stunned to see in the interior of the Finalizer. they've been hiding their star destroyers out in the Rim to keep things on the down-low.

    as to whether we needed to see the Republic's fleet? eh.
    the political/military situation is the easiest thing to make assumptions about and i gladly sacrifice it for more time building the characters.
    i suspect we'll learn a lot more in viii.
     
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    Quoting wookiepedia

    The Galactic Concordance was a historic peace treaty signed by the New Republic and the Galactic Empire


    New Republic

    "One of the first acts of the restored Galactic Senate was to pass theMilitary Disarmament Act, which reduced the New Republic Defense Fleet and armed forces to a token force compared to what the galaxy had as part of the Galactic Empire.

    Despite this, the Republic would still maintain the largest fleet in the galaxy, but nevertheless it was a fraction compared to the size of the Republic Navy at the height of the Clone Wars"

    FO

    "a successor state to the Old Empire growing in the Unknown Regions. While the Chancellor believed this new galactic government posed no threat as long as it adhered to the dictates of the Galactic Concordance, the First Order had in reality been skirting the stipulations of the treaty.

    The First Order was utilizing new Resurgent-class Star Destroyers, which were in themselves a clear violation of New Republic-First Order treaties governing capital ships, along with blatantly ignoring New Republic bans on the Order's purchase of weaponry. In a further attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the Galactic Concordance, the First Order began the massive mobilization of stormtrooper forces and expansion of its Army and Navy, along with training its new personnel on ship-based Academies..."
     
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    Excellent thanks! :)
     
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    Actually the republic's military matter(related with Starkiller Base also) is one of my biggest complain about the movie. I wanna discuss it in more details when I can make a thread. But in short answer, I think they had to be shown to make the movie at least more reasonable.
     
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