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Should these films be made? Are they just a cash grab for Disney?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by VOODOO, Sep 7, 2014.

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    The one thing we know for sure when it comes to George and the number of episodes is that the story was always changing. I think it's pretty safe to say that, at least in 1977, there was only one film (with the hopes of being able to maybe do more). Once that film was released he realized he would be able to do more. The idea that he had this really large story which he broke up into three parts even before the release of the original film in 1977 is just not true.
     
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    Every movie ever made in Hollywood has been made with the intention of making money. A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi... they weren't a charity project.

    We need to realize that, yes, the studios are out for cash. That's not a secret. Instead, we should be asking ourselves "Are these movies good on their own merits?" Because ultimately, none of the Star Wars films "needed" to be made. They did, and I'm glad they were, but they're first and foremost simply entertainment. So, take the good, criticize the bad. There's no reason to oversimplify this.
     
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    Of course, these movies are a cash grab, large amounts of money aren't spent expecting nothin' in return! In my opinion, TFA played it too safe, in order to maximize profits. But I still have faith in the sequels, and Disney's movies as a whole, as long as they are worried about telling good stories, rather than making money.
     
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    TFA played it safe to ensure locking in new fans.
    It's time for older Star Wars fans (mid-20s and up) to just accept that TFA was not made for them.
    You were not the target audience. The target audience are the kids born after 2000 who didn't get to grow up with Star Wars like kids from the 70s, 80s and 90s, who all had "their star wars."

    This movie was made with them in mind. It told a basic heroes journey in a familiar setting with familiar tropes. It's goal was to placate long time fans and lock in youth. It was very successful.
     
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    Would you enjoy tfa,r1 and future sw films more if Disney donate all the revenues from them to charity?
     

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    Cash grabs? yes. Better than most of the movies out there today? YES.

    Also, I watched Titanic II when it was on Netflix. It was hilarious how bad it was.
     
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    YESYESYES always. I don't care if people think it's a cash grab. Anything that can make me feel this good and bring the nostalgia rushing back in is fine in my books. And there will always be new Star Wars stories to tell :)
     
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    This need vs cash grab thing is silly. Silly in the choices it offers. It's not necessary therefore it must be a cash grab.
    Threads of Destiny was released in 2014. It's completely unnecessary.. and it's 100 % free meaning it's impossible for it to be a cash grab.
    I know where it comes from and its a logic trap that has quite frankly nuked the fridge.
     
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    Especially because every movie ever made for profit is a cash grab.
    The OT was a cash grab.
    The PT was a cash grab.
    The ST is a cash grab.
    The spin offs are a cash grab.

    Moonlight was a cash grab too.

    Every movie set to make money is a cash grab....success of the grab is up for debate.
     
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    Seriously, the "cashgrab" argument is silly. Try it in any other market and see how it does:

    That department store just sells clothes to make money!
    The only reason our waiter is serving us is so that he can make a living!
    The only reason I have friends is because my mom pays them!


    As long as the department store sells quality clothing, the waiter delivers quality service, and your friends give you quality playtime (maybe I had a sad childhood), what does the intent matter?
     
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    The films should be made regardless of where the profit goes.
     
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    Hm, has the sentiment here changed when we now see where the franchise is headed?

    (Coming from a guy who liked TFA, loved Rogue One, detested TLJ, and who has not seen Solo)
     
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    Well I wasn't here on this forum to share any earlier sentiments, but coming from a guy who loved TLJ, my sentiment now is that the franchise is definitely not 'just' a cash grab, and Disney have shown that they are willing to take some chances and take Star Wars into new thrilling and unexpected directions.
     
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    And where exactly is it headed? I think everything is fine. As for the "cash grab" thing - Star Wars movies are expensive and thus have to be made to appeal to general audiences, not just "hardcore fans" (who are few and want different things). Besides, Disney is actually trying to be creative with Star Wars. If you want real cash grab movie franchises, look at Transformers or Fast and Furious.
     
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    To me the term "cash grab" would imply that the people making a said movie aren't even attempting to tell a genuine story, they're just cobbling together pieces of a very general narrative and slapping a price on it. I think TLJ shows that, regardless of profit, the people making the SW movies are wanting to tell a genuine story, and thus not cash-grabbing. Maybe we say that "cash grabbing" is a cause, while "grabbing cash" is an effect of which the former, negative; the latter, positive.

    If they are trying to cash-grab then they need to go back to cash-grabbing school because this isn't the way to do it. Hand the franchise over to me and you'll be cash-grabbing by the bank-load. And you'll have a completely unremarkable and vacuous narrative that would meet the wildest dreams of the most hardcore Star Wars fanboy. And I'd be weeping. And a guy would say "Huh? Why do you cry? Your movie is a hit with the masses across the board." And I'd cry out, "Philistine! I weep not for me; I weep for them!"
     
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    I like the idea of having a trilogy of trilogies. So yeah. I think they should be made. But let it end with Episode IX.
     
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    I think with any sequel, prequel, remake, or re-imagining you have to look at it with the point of view that it is it's own thing. It doesn't replace the original, it doesn't make that one any less enjoyable, it is just another movie to like or don't like.

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    The same can be said about Ep. V, Ep. VI, and the entire PT. In fact, the same can be said for every sequel ever made. But it really doesn't matter as long as the people in charge are passionate and actually want to make something good.
     
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    When the ST was first announced, I made a statement that said, "Some stories just have a clear end point. Regardless of talent, trying to make Star Wars 7 is like trying to make Romeo and Juliet 2."

    In spite of that, I really tried my hardest to come into VII with an open mind, but I still feel like the ST does not stay true to episodes 1-6. I'm glad that some people like it, but if you're asking for my personal opinion, I would have to agree that the ST was probably not a good idea.
     
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