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Should we ever have an R-rated Star Wars movie?

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by Jaxxon, Nov 11, 2019.

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Should we ever have an R-rated Star Wars movie/show?

  1. No, never.

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  2. Yes, but only for violence

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  3. Yes, I want all the R-rated content

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  4. Yes, but only on streaming

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    7.0%
  1. Pizza Time

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    I agree with this.
     
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    Thanks.Best username i've seen so far.;)
     
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    Thanks you, I like yours as well.
     
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  4. Angelman

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    I'd love me some horror Star Wars that frighted me for realz! I think there's great potential there...
     
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    Same. I want it more than anything. I just know it's never going to happen lol
     
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    Honestly, I think that there should be such content available. I remember growing up reading books published by Black Library, books like Gotrek and Felix, Brunner the Bounty Hunter, Tales of the Ten Tailed Rat, Daemonifuge, Blood Angels, Malus Darkblade, Horus Heresy and many others. I loved the themes they explored about:
    • The frailty of the human condition
    • Religion and how its tenets are often manipulated and abused
    • Universal sufferage
    With regards to canonicity, it could be possible to have such a 15 or 18 rated film relegated to an area where it does not interfere with overarching plots. Or perhaps have it run concurrently with the plots. Such a film, if done correctly, would better be able to explore the impact of key decisions and show realities that a PG or 12A film would simply not be able to convey.

    As for the 12 year old mindset, often when I wanted to see a horror film, no matter the stated age rating, the people going to the shops with me would think Blast it, just give him what he wants.
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    I would like to see something more on the lines of Gangs of New York of Brawl in Cell Block 99. But yeah, it doesn't seem likely.
     
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    Agreed.

    If you want my two cents the last two films were 'adult'. In that it tackled adult themes about maturity, taking responsibility for your own life, leadership and facing your fears. And the messiness of life. That's real adulthood. Gratuitous sex scenes and mindless violence with dis-membered body parts is not 'adult content. That's sophomoric content for 15 year old boys by 15 year old boys.
     
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    Who says anything about mindless violence? In films like Event Horizon, The Void, Pandorum, Slither, Splinter, Carrie, The Mist, The Fly, Scanners, Outlast and countless others that violence had a place in the narrative and served to give authenticity to the setting. I want to see horror in Star Wars, pure and unadulterated horror.

    Maybe have some people possessed by dark side ghosts like the Martian ghosts in John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars, a body horror series based on an infectious disease like Cabin Fever or Pandemic, a creature feature like The Deadly Spawn or Parasite or a slasher/torture film based on the Knights of Ren as they slowly stalk the corridors of a ship.

    There are loads of possibilities for R rated dark side powers. In Judge Dredd: Necropolis, sisters Phobia and Nausea had the power to influence people's perception and made the Judges think they were on fire or surrounded by enemies. Imagine that a particularly cruel force user made people think there were insects under their skin and their victims tried to cut them out or made them relive their worst memories.

    Or they could use corpses as puppets and 'speak through' them. Imagine a dismembered torso suddenly floating in the air, its head lolling sideways its eyes dead, intestines swaying from side to side like the pendulum on a macabre clock. It speaks to you in a harsh whisper informing you of your impending demise before swelling as some unknown pressure is applied to its insides and finally rupturing in a spray of gore.

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  9. Angelman

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    Please do not post images of violence and suffering here. (Same goes for nudity and all that). There is no age limit in the Cantina; basically, this is a family friendly place.
     
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    Won't happen again.
     
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    For the record, I like Event Horizon more than it deserves and am a life long fan of Hellraiser... Just not on sites like this :)

    Also, in my book an R-rated SW horror film would awesome! ;-)
     
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    I have rediscovered one of my old favourite special effects channels. Feast your eyes on this.
     
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    That would be cool. No one likes the NJO because how it’s too dark and gritty, but I loved it.
     
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    Gotta disagree. A dark and mature story line/content could result in an R-rating without the need of additional violence, foul language etc
    It be refreshing to watch something more 'mature' then what we got. "Ah shucks Snap died"
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    Its call KARDASHIANS
     
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    I'm always curious to know how people define the word 'mature'. What exactly does that mean to you?
     
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    Good question....hard to explain.
    I'd like a dark storyline, a frightening antagonist, mature themes and cut out the comedy.
    Something serious for a change. The closest we ever got was TESB and Rogue One.
     
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    Just seems like, generally, when people use the word ‘mature’, what they’re really meaning is ‘explicit’. They don’t want implied violence or profanity or sexuality. They want gratuity. In and of itself, that isn’t really indicative at all of ‘maturity’. It’s actually a pretty juvenile mindset.

    ‘Maturity’ is the perspective earned from an accumulation of life experience. You have the wherewithal and context to fully appreciate adult related themes without getting stuck on the surface layer. But the surface layer of those themes is where most people tend to stop.
    The biggest recent example I can think of is James Wan’s ‘The Conjuring’. The film was specifically built to be PG-13. No excessive sex or violence or profanity. Just a straight forward haunted house story. It was so affecting though that it got an R rating anyway. The MPAA, the embodiment of arbitrary, felt it was just too scary for kids. That’s it. Too darn spoooooky. Way too intense for their little minds to handle.

    If that’s more where the argument is coming from, then I can at least see the appeal. A Star War that caters exclusively to adults due to the intensity of the subject matter, is an interesting idea. But it also runs fundamentally contrary to why it even exists. Star Wars is a children’s fantasy series. It was never meant for adults. So it’s an odd turnabout. I get why folks would want it. But I don’t think they should ever actually get it.
     
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    This is where we'll agree to disagree. If you ever look at footage from when STAR WARS was released...line-ups were mostly composed of young adults and older.
    The "kids movie" idea took off once SW exploded on the toy/Mattel scene and became a merchandising machine.
    Follow-up movies became more orientated towards kids (ie- Ewoks, Han not dying in EPVI) yet no one will ever convince me SW and TESB are "kids movies".

    Gotta cut this short (working remote).

    Cheers, KH

    Edit: By mature i meant adult storyline, not extra violence or sex..a dark story, characters put in difficult situations and having to make difficult choices.
     
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    Not even the guy who created them?

    “I decided I wanted to make a children’s movie, to go the Disney route…Fox hates for me to say this, but Star Wars has always been intended as a young people’s movie. While I set the audience for Graffiti at sixteen to eighteen, I set this one at fourteen and maybe even younger than that.” – George Lucas, American Film, April 1977

    “It’s a film for 12-year-olds. This is what we stand for. You’re about to enter the real world. You’re moving away from your parents. You’re probably scared, you don’t know what’s going to happen. Here’s what you should pay attention to: Friendships, honesty, trust, doing the right thing. Living on the light side, avoiding the dark side.” – George Lucas, Star Wars Celebration, April 2017

    Over the years, George Lucas has made a number of contradictory statements about the historical production of Star Wars. Some double speak, some oversimplifications, some selective memories. One thing he’s been impressively consistent on for the past half-century, is who he’d made it for: kids. Teens/adults are welcome, but they are absolutely not who these films were meant to speak to.
    Same here. There's plenty PG-13 movies that meet that criteria though. The only reason I can think of for an 'R' rating would be for that extra violence or sex.
     
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    April 1977...No one knew if SW would sink or swim until after its release. Anywho I stand firm on my position but I'll yeild the point to you as it came from GL's mouth....despite his history of flip flopping.
     
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