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Snoke age confirmed by Andy Serkis

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by StarWarsGaming, Mar 8, 2018.

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    It is now confirmed snoke is a couple hundred years old said by Andy Serkis in a recently interview. Here is a video by stupendous wave which explains it in far greater detail and some theories too. This changes up some theories we all had. To be honesty thought snoke was a lot younger.

     
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    He's dead so I don't care anymore about him.

    It was during the movie that we needed informations not now or not by buying books.
     
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    I'm not sure if Andy Serkis is someone who can 'confirm' anything canon related, but this is neat insight into his preparation for the role at any rate.
     
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    True but he obviously has the knowledge as he played the character.
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    This can give us a gauge to his past life by his age. I still think he is relevant character. Your opinion I suppose.
     
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    When I saw the movie, the dead body of Snoke cut in half makes me think about knacks ...

    I really told myself, Ok it was some sort of alien, half a man and half a sausage ...

    That's how high I was out of the movie.
     
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    Sure. He has knowledge of one possible backstory that JJ provided him at some point. What he was told 'could' be what's revealed, or it could also equally be something entirely different.
     
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    "Vader/Palpatine are dead in Return of the Jedi, I don't care about the prequel trilogy on them that is coming in 1999"
     
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    C'est différent parce que pour l'OT, il n'y a pas encore de background.

    Là, Snoke est vivant pendant les autres films donc on a envie de savoir qui est ce type aussi fort que l'empereur mais qui n'était pas là pendant ces évènements mais en fait, maintenant, tu t'en cognes parce qu'il est mort et comme une merde en prime.

    Rêve pas, t'auras jamais un développement aussi abouti que pour l'OT avec Snoke, ils se sont foutu de nos trognes.
     
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    Also, The Emperor had one mention and one scene prior to six. He probably had even less screen time then Snoke did (prior to the Prequels). It took a couple of decades before we got his backstory. Hell, Vader for that matter. I'm not saying it's an excuse, it's just why do they give that a pass for the OT, but not the ST? :rolleyes: Also, apparently they have some sorta plan for Snoke at least that's what Andy said. To keep it open for more movies.
     
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    Novel Aftermath mentioned Sith Lords who were able to prolong their lives for centuries by draining Life Force from their enemies.
    I have now no any doubt it was reference on Snoke .
     
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    replying to the bold:

    The way I see it, is during the OT these characters had little to no backstory because we joined the story in the middle. The beginnings of the story were still to be told. That is why they get a pass. That is why they got a pass. As we had episodes 4 thru 6, the backstory was always there in 1 thru 3, we just weren't privvy to it because that story hadn't yet been told. But it was there, waiting to be told.
    Snoke was introduced towards the end of the story with little to no backstory. But all of the prior stories have already been told. So within the confines of the episodic saga story where oh where does Snoke's history fit into the story? Well, to be frank, it doesn't and cannot. This is why he does not get a pass.

    Nobody cares that Maz has no backstory, because it's not important. Hell, even how she got the sabre can be accepted with no backstory. But Snoke? The guy who resurrected the Empire, oops, sorry, the First Order. We've been short changed.

    Comparing the lack of backstory of certain characters in the OT with the lack of backstory of certain characters in the ST just doesn't work.

    Different times, different scenarios, different kettle of fish.

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    It also took Lucas decades to finish it...
     
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    Non parlez vous Francais
     
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    Not relevant mate
     
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    Sure not now, but imagine seeing the OT in theaters (without context of 6) and wondering who the hell The Emperor is and only getting a mention and one scene. If they did that today, it would have gotten the same response to Snoke. Also, I'm fully aware that the orginal script for Star Wars was very different. It was more like TPM in a sense. In that you were actually going to Coruscant and seeing all these things, but of course there tech limits. You can compare Snoke to The Emperor because they're essentially the same character.
     
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    Yes, in that hypothetical scenario. But that's not how it is though. You have to look at it in the context of 6 (even before 1 thru 3 were made) because it states in the opening crawl it is episode 4.

    Yes. they are basically the same character, and they can be compared in that way. This is because of piss poor writing, trying to mimic the greatness of the OT, but not taking into account where the new writers are in the complete story. This is why their lack of backstories are not comparable.

    The way to fix it would be to rename TFA from EP7 to EP10, and TLJ to EP11. That would have allowed for a backstory to be included, and until those stories were told, no one would have a leg to stand on complaining about the lack of a backstory. But it's too late for that.

    Yes, we can make up hypothetical scenarios to defend the ST, but I'd rather talk facts.

    Peace out dude
     
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    Actually the orginal opening crawl just said Star Wars. A New Hope, I believe came later with the special editions? Right? Because the studio believed it would confuse the audience. Ah "talk facts", you mean opinions?:rolleyes: I'd take it then you wouldn't claim "piss poor writing" if Empire came out today. Without context of six and it was done in the same way as back in 1980?
     
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    No, in 1977 it just said Star Wars, (and it was written as a stand alone story because they didn't know if it was gonna be a success.) then a couple of years later Episode IV was added. In 1980. Just before Empire came out. Try again mate.

    It is my opinion it is piss poor writing yes. My Granny could write a better story, and she's dead. It is a FACT the new writers are trying very hard to mimic the OT. It is a FACT in the OT the back stories were always there, just not told yet. And no, Empire would not be piss poor writing because it's not trying to copy a previous episode. It is a FACT that Snoke does not have any history, even though he was present, and the only likelihood of a backstory will be in ancillary material outside of the saga. (Which for me, is not good enough).

    It has had the context of episodes since 1980. FACT. It was not done the same way at all. Get your info right mate. I suggest you do some research. :rolleyes:

    You can have the last word fella, time for me to bow out, because this convo is going nowhere.

    Peace out dude

    EDIT: It was 1981, after Empire came out (which included Episode V in the crawl), during another theatrical release.
     
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    Also the sole purpose of The Emperor's inclusion in 6 was to fuel Luke vs Vader. We didn't know who he was till the Prequels. You know (I'm just thinking out loud here) I hate it when people claim they can do a better job...okay actually write a fan fic and put it online, instead of just making bold statement like that.
     
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    I guess there was also the fact that we'd been fighting an "Empire" for two films. An "Emperor" would've been a glaring omission if he wasn't addressed.
     
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