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Snoke age confirmed by Andy Serkis

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by StarWarsGaming, Mar 8, 2018.

  1. kuatorises

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    Prequel logic doesn't apply to the originals. They were written so far after the original trilogy that you can't expect the originals to adhere to something that was written 20 something years later.
     
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    Leia said in 7 Snoke had been watching Ben since he was born
    That does insinuate he was the main reason Ben turned and a big influence.
     
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    Looking back on this now...

    Was Andy Serkis wrong? (or maybe the answer was changed after he gave this interview)

    The original video already acknowledges the fact that Snoke being hundreds of years old eliminates the possibility that he was created by Palpatine.

    The only idea I can think of is that maybe Palpatine created Snoke with a "preloaded brain" with ancient memories and the belief that he was hundreds of years old, even though he wasn't really. I don't know why (or how) Palpatine would do that, but I can't think of any other way to reconcile all these different ideas.
     
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    Either that or was harvesting his tissue to understand the cause of his longevity.
     
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    I guess if you really wanna stretch the logic of it, you could consider that Snoke was a creation of Palpatine, himself who was apparently basically the embodiment of all sith.
     
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    I do not think that he was all of the Sith in the literal sense.A man who had spent most of his life filling his mind with the knowledge of centuries and who's beliefs and ethos is the sum of the generations that came before. More like the last of them. When he says he is all of the Sith, this is a sign both of his grandiose manner but also a concession that after him, there is nothing.
     
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    Even though we see ma y clones of Snoke on Esegol supposedly created by Palpatine. That still doesnt confirm am age if Palpatine cloned something ready in existence and already perhaps over 100 years old. Perhaps even none of the clones from ROS had even been used?
     
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    A possible explanation is the theory (now debated and arguably disproven that a clone retains the 'genetic age' of its source material. Certainly with Dolly the sheep, there was speculation that this was the cause of her premature aging and demise.

    Analysis of Dolly’s DNA when she was one year old showed that the protective caps on the end of her chromosomes (known as telomeres) were shorter than those of a normal sheep of the same age. Telomeres get shorter with age and it is possible that Dolly’s telomeres had not been fully renewed during the cloning process. However, the telomeres of other cloned animals have been found to be a similar length or even longer than those of normal animals. The reasons for these differences in telomere length are not completely clear and require further investigation.

    Source: https://www.ed.ac.uk/roslin/about/dolly/facts/cloning

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    It may be that Palpatine used surrogate DNA with shorter life cycles from other organisms to gather observable data on Snoke's growth. This is not without precedent, all you have to do is look into the Clone army which itself is likely the result of an iterative process as with the technology that birthed them.

    In the real world, for example, scientists are working on artificial wombs that will likely be used to save fetuses who's mothers have died while pregnant. However there is still a lot of time between now and when these become mainstream- need a whole bunch of other tests from chemical, bio-compatibility with humans, physical tests and iterative designs.



    I remember watching a documentary on the new gene-editing method CRISPR and the various debates therein. The more you edit, the more scope there is to be for errors and unintended consequences. Documentary link can be found below.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000dt7d/storyville-the-gene-revolution-changing-human-nature
     
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    You know, he looks alright for a few hundred years, I mean thats what Yoda would say. Im sure he remembers those few hundred year days. Lol :) xD
     
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    All these things about cloning is cool amd might be true. But I was technically meaning that perhaps the original Snoke not the clone was over 100 years old. Not anything having to do with the actual cloning process etc. Just That Snoke himself and not the clone if there ever was such was probably several hundred years old. I guess when George replaces Kathleen and make his three it won't matter :)

    I'm sorry for the horrible spelling from awhile ago but it won't let me edit it. Probably because its been quoted?
     
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    It's no wonder he got his ugly ass handed to him.
     
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    I think it's just that they, unfortunately, didn't have a plan for the trilogy, so there was probably a rough idea for who Snoke was which is what Serkis was reffering too, but then the last Jedi killed him off, so episode 9 needed a new villain and making Snoke a Palpatine creation kind of gave an explanation for Snoke as well as retro actively giving Palpatine a presence throughout the sequel trilogy.
     
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    Exactly, Mosley909.

    The unfortunate thing about 'flying from the seat of your pants' is that if the Powers-that-Be had actually thought through the Palpatine/Snoke creation business from the get-go, the screenplays for the first two films could have spiced up the villainy for the audience by providing some subtle -- but, none-the-less tantilizing -- clues about Snoke's true origin -- which would have led to mega-discussions about it on social media.
     
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