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Snoke and Luke: The connection.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by ITG, Aug 6, 2017.

  1. ITG

    ITG Force Sensitive

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    Snoke and Luke have a force bond.


    Snoke can get into Luke's head just as Kylo can with Rey. Snoke has driven Luke into exile as he has the ability to manipulate and partially control him.


    Luke has travelled to the only planet (the one with the force tree) that conceals his whereabouts. He is on a quest to find the solution to destroying Snoke.


    Snoke has always kept his distance in fear that Luke can destroy him. He manipulates things from afar. He always has....


    I believe that the dialogue we hear from Luke in the trailer ("It's time for the Jedi to end") is in fact Snoke's manipulation. At this point in the film, Snoke has discovered Luke's location and can now penetrate his mind again. Snoke remains on his mobile command ship and travels close enough to the planet to start causing damage to Luke without having to confront him as he fears it's possible Luke can still destroy him. He now sends Kylo and his posse to finish him. Problem is, Rey is with him and is more powerful than he imagined.


    Basically, Luke is a broken man, being driven insane by Snoke and he has to be saved. Enter Rey. He's not evil. He hasn't/doesn't use the dark side. He's been screwed up. But like the Luke Skywalker we know and love, he's doing the RIGHT THING.



    I believe that Snoke's bond with Luke is because he is the Skywalker's creator. I won't start name dropping his former identity, but you know what I'm thinking.


    Snoke still fears Luke as he admits that if Skywalker returns the new Jedi will rise. He knows he's vulnerable - we just don't know all the facts yet. He wants him destroyed but doesn't want direct involvement, which is why Kylo's is doing his donkey work.



    Rey turning up on Ahch-To is another reason why he's pissed off. His location may now been known to Snoke and the FO.



    Look at the art of TFA book and the way Luke is depicted in certain sketches. It's like he's being controlled/manipulated by a monster.


    Let's toss this quote (which may have some connection) in here for good measure!

    “If you follow the direction, and project into the final trilogy [i.e. Episode VII-IX], you realise that you’re going to meet the supreme intellect, and you think how is it possible to create a man who has such profound cunning that he can not only control Darth Vader, but the fate of Luke Skywalker? Control the destiny of the whole galaxy? You’ll be amazed!”


    Discuss!
     
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  2. ITG

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    Requesting a lock. I've moved this to my other Snoke thread - despite the negative reaction (or lack-of) it received!
     
  3. Paul Dameron

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    “If you follow the direction, and project into the final trilogy [i.e. Episode VII-IX], you realise that you’re going to meet the supreme intellect, and you think how is it possible to create a man who has such profound cunning that he can not only control Darth Vader, but the fate of Luke Skywalker? Control the destiny of the whole galaxy? You’ll be amazed!”
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    You made some good points. I believe this last part though he was actually talking about Emperor Palpatine. I believe when asked about it George Lucas said as much and that they woumd up just putting that in Return Of The Jedi. He(Luke) was also originally supposed to meet his sister in one of those sequels and it wasnt supposed to be Leia.
     
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    I do not think Snoke and Luke are connected if so why Luke could not tell Snoke was corrupting Ben Solo. I believe Snoke is pure evil but weak, and Luke can easy stop what he is doing. So to get Luke out the picture, he fooled him in a sinister way, turn his own blood against him, destroyed his school and students. Make Luke doubt the way of the Jedi so he goes on a mission to find out what is the true purpose of the Jedi. So now Luke is out his way so now Snoke has no one to stop him from his pure sinister evil plans. But the Force has another plan and the Force does not need Luke to do so he has chosen someone else it might even be two other people it chooses besides Luke.
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    The only connection Snoke and Luke have is maybe they both were on the same side at one time and this is how Snoke was about to manipulate Kylo Ren to turn on him.
     
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    Bluemilk I AM the Senate

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    Only connection to Snoke is Kylo
     
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