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RUMOR Snoke is more fearful than Palpatine

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Aug 3, 2017.

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What do you expect power of the Snoke is.

Poll closed Jun 1, 2020.
  1. He is "Source of Dark side" defined by Palpatine

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    18.5%
  2. He is ancient Dark side master prolonging his life

    19 vote(s)
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  3. He is average Force sensitive person"Dark side prophet"

    3 vote(s)
    11.1%
  4. He is "Palpatine's Librarian" Imposter

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  1. McDiarmid

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    Yes.
    And if you note one who will get this perception about Snoke are..fans.That means people who obviously know in details older SW films and are capable to compare.

    As I said it also says Snoke will not be explained in TLJ but trough his actions in the film,we,fans,will found (conclude) Snoke to be more fearful than Emperor.
     
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    No, you're twisting fearful into fearsome again. If someone from Pinewood called Snoke fearful they meant scared. Kylo Ren is full of fear. As was Anakin. Fear leads to the Dark Side. Sidious was fearless, but really he's the exception.
     
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    Most likely it refers to 1 or 5:

    1. causing or apt to cause fear; frightening: a fearful apparition.

    2. feeling fear, dread, apprehension, or solicitude: fearful for his life; fearful lest he commit suicide.

    3. full of awe or reverence: fearful of the Lord.

    4. showing or caused by fear : fearful behavior.

    5. extreme in size, intensity, or badness: a fearful head cold; fearful poverty.
     
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    The word means 'full of fear'. The ambiguity is just whether it is the subject that is full of fear or the implied objective observer. Where it is used for something that doesn't have feelings like a ghost, cold or poverty it carries the secondary meaning i.e. that it inspires fear in others. Where it is used for someone with their own feelings (as here) it would almost certainly mean they themselves are scared.

    Do you have some reason for doubting that Snoke is scared? He already said he's concerned about the return of Luke Skywalker and the rise of the new Jedi so we already know he's worried.
     
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    It's not saying Snoke is afraid. He invokes more fear than Palpatine did. That's what it's meant to mean, even if the wording was misused. Snoke causes fear.
     
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    No way, after seeing his appearance in TFA, Palpy is still the fearful one, maybe my mind will change in TLJ.
     
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    It's using Mike Zero as quote material.
    @Rieekan posted this on first page " Careful with this, express tabloid jumps on Mike Zeroh claims.." To me that would explain why the word fearful was used. :confused:
     
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    Well Hitler collected Biblical artifacts as well
    Since he had been raised Catholic. I know it seems this is more a correlation with the Indiana Jones movies...but I believe if Snoke is kind of like Hitler maybe has fear of the Jedi and Sith but is not one and collects the relics Just like Hitler did, though he was no longer Christian.
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    Right. But it was probably the person that said it originally made a mistake I am assuming. Especially if the leak was quoted by Zeroh.
     
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    But Palpatine was not scared.At least I think so.
    How can Snoke be more scared than Palpatine ?
    Palpatine actions made others scared of him.Just remember when Vader told to Admiral in charge of building Second Death Star that Emperor is not forgiving as he is.
     
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    In fact that dude Mike Zeroh gets answer on any of his questions posted to Pablo Hidalgo,just watch,I couldn't believe myself,every question on twitter posted by Mike, Pablo Answers stright away.Strange acquiescence.
    Yes for a moments his reasoning appears to be no more sophisticated than that of a Jar-Jar Binx,but now I know he is acting it to get what he wants. Say what you want Mike Zeroh is weird phenomenon and has special role in this show.
    His old information that Snoke is acronym Sith No One Knew Existed is still informal king of all leaks,and makes more sense with every new detail that appears about Snoke.
     
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    They are really going to have to pull off something REALLY convincing to have fans believe that. We have 7 movies that show us how nasty Palps was and we saw many of the atrocities that were done under his rule. How then are they going to make Snoke seem more evil than him if we already know that TLJ will barely feature him? What could they possibly do in the last movie that would show us that he's worst than the dude that destroyed the Jedi order when it was at it's best, conquered the galaxy, enslaved millions and killed millions more?
     
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    Mike Zeroh I like him but he is the TMZ of Star Wars only thing he is good for is telling us about when a Star Wars trailer is coming out. Besides that he a very nice and informative guy but he makes too many videos on the same topics. All his information and speculations are not his own, he gets it from these sources 4chan, the making of starwars.net, google search lol, Reddit, Star War legend concept. He is always changing up his speculation due to what concepts he found online that is popular at that time point, then changes up after new trailer of info from star wars come out. He good for making videos about what he reads and find on themakingofstarwars.net that all he good for plus when the next trailer will come out. I watch his show every day for star wars news because he is the TMZ of Star Wars.
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    I never really sat and thought about Snoke cause fear, until reading this from you. It does appear everyone is afraid of Snoke from the First Order like Hux and Kylo Ren. As they said, " the Supreme Leader Snoke is wise". Sound like saying that is out of fear but not respect, like a cult follower who fears the cult leader. Hux fear Snokes but wants Snokes to see he is a real follower of Snoke. Even Finn fears Snoke and the first order, this is why he is running from them trying to get far far away from them because he knows what Snoke and his army can do. Good post-Lady Red you sound like you on the wrong side lol
     
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    Zeroh is very dedicated guy and fanatic Star Wars fan.He overproduces his theories for which he has been trashed by many,however he is very persistant and his Pinewood Studios leak,which maybe is the same person that made Dubrovnik leak ,seems real. As I said in conversation between Pablo Hidalgo and him,Hidalgo appears to respect him.
     
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    Zeroh has a troublesome rep.

    I see a lot of his vids not because I like his views (he doesn't hold many views and throws out contrary speculation sometimes in the same day. But his vids are short. He serves as a good digest of things and even if I hate how he interprets things I get a quick view of what the major SW sites have put up.
     
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    I agree. I've always got the feeling he is like a news reporter for various sites and forums. He makes a video of the info and theories he reads. I just feel like he takes the theories and speculations and puts like a little fact twist in the way he reports it.
     
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    Not at all.
    Not sure if he knows who this is but the conversation is nothing special. If he is asking questions that often appear online of course Pablo answers, like Film vs Book canon and stuff, nothing unusual.

    The Thing is he is fabricating fakes and that makes him a liar (he used that charade before with other big name) and if he gets caught, things get nasty. Aslos he never reveals or credits the source, to make it looks like it is coming from him.
    His Rogue One leaks were awful and so off, it didn't even fit the official marketing material, it is good that deletes all his stuff after a while, that would be quite damaging afterwards.
     
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    If this is true I wonder if Snoke is just a genius in manipulating others but has no real Force powers or cannot use them because his body is that damaged. If this would be the case a powerful force user at his service like Ren (or Rey) is much more important for him to reach his goals then I thought before.
     
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    References from Aftermath novel trilogy and The Force Awakens novelization strongly suggest Snoke is extraordinary Force weilder.
    Maybe not by his physical strenght, but he possess fearful Force capabilities.

    -he influences Ben Solo by telekinesis from his birth

    -he declares himself as a Sculptor, one which refines others (in this case Kylo) if he finds one is made of "right material"

    - he had apprentices before, which means he is on a level of mastery in the Force.

    - last but not least, he made a mess in the galaxy, inflicting already a haevy blow infkicted to Force sensitive Skywalker family (and what a Force sensitive family they are !) , in fact we have sequel trilogy because of him.

    - he does, however, fear of Luke, which must be mentioned from the point of troughout inquiry, which is interesting fact.
     
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    :eek: Woah, is there a source for the application of telekinesis on Baby Ben? Was he floating around the room in mid-air when Leia tried to change the diapers?

    Summon a lightsaber stuck in the snow 5 meters away, OK for me, I’ve seen that. But moving around a baby boy while on another planet? Man, Snoke must be A HELL of a force wielder!
     
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    We can't call it telepathy since psyche and Force aren't equal.
    Snoke influenced balance of Light and Darkness within baby Ben,not his psyche.
    Since Force is energy field and energy equals mass we must of course as an educated population use term telekinesis until Someone in SW story department decide what is called that what Snoke did to Ben(hint,it was evil thing,manipulating with the source of life itself,which Force is).
     
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