RUMOR Snoke is more fearful than Palpatine

Yes, Luke looks quite fearful though...

 

Second that! So what Yoda was telling him back in the days about that he will be afraid someday comes true!

 

After seeing the trailer he's equally fearful.

 

So Snoke is more afraid than Palpatine, or Snoke causes more terror than Palpatine?

Personally I find this old geezer in his golden bathrobe, spreading his legs on his throne (see action figure) less scary and more silly. He's got a great voice but that's it.

Having read umpteen theories about his identity I have concluded that he is an ancient entity who prolongs his life in some manner, not Plagueis but quite similar in concept. Overall I think Snoke (at least for now) is the new trilogy's weakest link

 

At this stage i still don't think they have decided who snoke is and what his back story is.

 

I think he's weary

 

I think he is as fearful as this breed of cats. I'm surprised nobody hasn't made this observation until now, it's like a clone of Snoke.

 

That's Darth Filinus.

 

In case anyone was left wondering about the fearful stuff. Serkis confirmed he is fearful as in afraid.

interpretation.http://comicbook.com/starwars/2017/12/09/star-wars-the-last-jedi-snoke-fears-andy-serkis/

 

I don't get it? Does the poster mean "fearsome"? Or "fearful"? They are two completely separate words.

 

lol

 

In the end, Snoke was just some evil wizard on a throne, that Kylo Ren had to overcome as part of his character development. So, exactly like OTs Palpatine to Darth Vader. Sometimes I feel sorry for people, who invested too much into their Snoke theories. Usually for a few seconds, but still.

 

Sometimes I feel sorry for people that don't understand the difference between introducing a major character with no back story in the FIRST story told which is actually in the middle of the overall story as opposed to introducing a major character with no back story in the SEVENTH story told which is actually towards the end of the overall story. I don't get that people can't see that glaring difference and that the OT's Palpatine to Vader should never have been repeated. Bad, lazy, uninspired writing IMO.

Sometimes I also feel sorry for those that don't understand the difference I have stated and just claim that "your Snoke theory sucks" at those that do understand the difference.

Usually for a few seconds, but still.

EDIT: Obviously, this post is a bit tongue in cheek to demonstrate the rudeness and lack of respect in the post above this one. Pity is not warranted over a difference of opinion.

 

maybe a different way to think about it is that these are genuinely discrete stories.
the PT was Anakin's story. the OT was Luke's. the ST is Rey's.

does Snoke actually matter outside of seducing Ben and being killed for it? and i mean absolutely within the context of this being Rey's story.
who is Snoke to Rey? just a monster. she knows as much about him as we do (maybe we know even a little bit more).

if we think about the ST in the context of Rey being our "primary" protagonist, then Snoke's story is immaterial (even if tantalizing to some).
you feel like that's lazy bad uninspired writing. i see the writers interested in entirely different questions: about the Force, about the bonds it creates; about family, about the bonds that creates; about legacy, and yep: the bonds that creates too! to me there's nothing lazy about the examination of those themes (and actually some of it has been quite challenging for the audience).

maybe the focus on theme rather than plot isn't to everybody's preference, but that's what i see happening with the ST.

this is a pretty simple, straight-forward space adventure with fun characters and definitely lot of deliberate redundancies for the nostalgia factor.
it's not trying to tell a very complicated story and that's by design (and also why i don't think it's lazy). but even Snoke, despite how disposable he was to the plot, serves a complex theme, which is about manipulation and abuse (yes, somewhat deliberately in the vein of Palpatine, but maybe so much worse in his cruel, greasy overconfidence).

storywise, he's important as the shard in Ben's eye (so to speak). it's less important how the shard got there; more important that Rey gave him the strength/confidence to remove it and now, seeing how that did not all play out the way either of them expected, we have to wonder what they'll do next.

just to be clear: i think TLJ does have some problems in the writing.
but Snoke is not one of them to my mind.

 

Yeah, I do get that the the three trilogies are Anakin, Luke, and Rey. But the Anakin one and the Luke one seem (to me) far more connected as a whole than the Rey trilogy. And for me personally, I think a bit more on Snoke and the First Order and Luke (and probably some other bits too) could have helped bridge the trilogies. For me currently it's 1 - 6, with 7 -9 being a separate entity, and I hate that. I want the saga to be one long continuous story 1 - 9.

 

i get that. i don't actually feel (emotionally or narratively) much connection between the PT and the OT other than Darth Vader is Darth Vader and Obi-Wan is Obi-Wan. maybe the fact that Luke and Vader are son and father makes it feel that way to you?

i would like more about the FO too (Snoke, i don't care ~ hahahaha), but otherwise i feel like the OT and ST are pretty strongly tied through Ben. we're just seeing the Skywalker mess through outsider's eyes; but again ~ to me, that makes it even easier (maybe even more necessary?) to approach it in a different way.

i get the disappointment of wanting to feel an epic 1-9 arc.
having watched it in the theatre 4-6, 1-3, 7,8 i just don't have that sense of a need for continuity with it personally.

 

I too saw them 4-6, 1-3, 7,8. But the PT and OT combined showed The fall of the Republic and it's transformation into the Empire, the Empire in full swing, to the fall of the Empire (one arc). The Jedi Order in full flow, it's destruction and the seeds of a rebuilt order (one arc). The rise of Anakin, the fall of Anakin, the rise of Vader to the redemption of Anakin (one arc). There are more but I'm working and it's tough to do lengthy posts

And I totally understand that Snoke as the character is portrayed in TFA and TLJ has served it's purpose for the stories of Rey and Ben, it just doesn't come across to me as having all that much to do with what came before. Hope you understand what I mean.

But I'd say we've digressed from the topic now and it's probably a conversation for another thread.

 

worth having if you're interested, but yes, we've wandered off the range. XD

 

Amazing design that I would have loved to have seen more of.

 

Any time my friend, just point me in the right direction.

Anyway, about that inconsequential Snoke fella....