Snoke/Kylo story about Rey parents does not hold.

Abrams will definitely have her be somebody in ep IX.

 

TLJ created a plothole (sort of) in TFA and thats it. Rey is a nobody and you have to accept it.

 

One thing I've come to realize is the fact that just because something is illogical or doesn't fit within the story, doesn't mean it's not part of the Star Wars ST. You will wear yourself out by pointing out the things that don't make sense....

These movies are not made for diehard fans who think everything should mesh together in a coherent story, within the context of a galaxy far, far away. They're meant to be general audience blockbusters. With so many writers and directors involved, all of whom have a different vision than the one GL had, things are going to fall through the cracks or be altered. Rey's memories in VII and her realizations from VIII don't fit because they changed the story. That's all there is to it.

Like many other little oddities in the ST, I'd like for there to be a deeper meaning, but I doubt there is. Look at how much debate there was over Luke's lightsaber- but Maz just had it, that's all, and we're never going to know why or how. Rey's backstory is the same.

 

It really does feel like they changed the story of Rey's parents. And who knows, it may change again in the next episode. I'm not sure if I even care at this point, I was so put off by TLJ as a whole and am not sure if I want to know where they're taking things next.

 

while it could go either way, my opinion is

Kylo was lying to her to try and get her to turn. Make her believe she is nothing. Strip her down and build her back up, on his side

 

One thing that for sure changed for me is the utter lack of interest in speculating about what's coming next. I really loved thinking about TFA and consumed every tidbit of news or leaks like a starving woman. It was lots of fun. Now I can see that is no use in having this or that theory about anything when it can all so easily change. I quit looking for deeper meaning, and am just along for the ride.

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I wish you were right but I fear you are not.

 

My POV is that Kylo THINKS he knows where she comes from and why she's alone. Maybe he got it from their connection, but that could be a ruse or a misinterpretation. Also, she never acknowledges or confirms what he says... he's telling her what to feel and believe. I think she's always been hiding who they were, not because she was embarassed, but that she could be protecting herself or them.

It's no different than "Darth Vader killed your father"... just because it's said, doesn't mean it's true.

 

Agreed. I said in a different thread that I think they left it so that it could be changed in the next episode. It would be the easiest thing to say that Kylo lied or Snoke misled him and Rey is really the daughter of some powerful force user. If they did that, then I would stop calling her a Mary Sue and would stop getting voted down and barked at on here.

 

Unless misread the Force Back sequence was...

All you see in TFA Force Back sequence is a little girl yelling "No, come back!" to a ship. We have no idea what was actually going on in that scene at this point. We speculate it involves her parents flying away (and now further speculate it was the moment she was sold...to...someone), but who knows. The scenes have been left vague enough that any competent writer can turn them into anything in Episode IX, and also enough detail has been injected at this point to where I think I'd be happy with either reveal: she's either not from anywhere or anyone special (a powerful story and symbolic device), or she has some connection to something that explains her prominence in the trilogy (a powerful lore device). Both results would be pretty cool. But neither result is predictable at this moment in time.

Always in motion is the future.

 

Wow is that quote seriously from JJ? Did the guy even watch star wars? Seriously if that is true, JJ is even more inept that I could possibly imagine.

 

Don't worry, I'm not going to waste my time speculating about Rey's origins for two more years. In my opinion, they screwed up TFA by making her some mystery, and it wasn't just me who thought she would be the child of someone important. My own parents, who aren't exactly Star Wars fanatics, watched TFA and asked me "So that Rey girl is going to be related to someone important, right? Maybe Skywalker." So there's seems to be a very large percentage of people who thought there was more to Rey's parents than drunken loser bums.

 

"Still looking to the horizon....never his mind on where he was, what he was doing."

Do people listen to Yoda or what??? Jeez, it's all there in the films...multiple times!

 

At this point, RJ has been very clear that in his story Rey is told the truth. Rey being from nowhere is part of the theme of the film. Kylo Ren is a privileged child who had everything and turned to the dark side. Rey is the child of struggle. It's very much a yin yang. JJ has the ability to change the story if he wishes... there's enough wiggle room. I just don't see what it brings to the story. Leia is gonna be dead. Luke is dead. Han is dead. Making her related to a dead character brings nothing to her character.

 

I'm talking about the quote you said was from JJ:

"And so, I really feel like the assumption that any character needs to have inherited a certain number of midi-chlorians or needs to be part of a bloodline, it’s not that I don’t believe that as part of the canon, I’m just saying that at 11 years old, that wasn’t where my heart was. And so I respect and adhere to the canon but I also say that the Force has always seemed to me to be more inclusive and stronger than that."

Someone who thinks this that is valid assumption has clearly not watched star wars. Almost all jedi or sith in star wars do not have inherited anything nor are they part of a bloodline, the Skywalkers are the exception not the norm.

 

If you read the novelization of TFA, there's a point during that first mind probe where he says "it's you!" This is left out of the movie. I have always felt that Kylo knows Rey, it's almost as if he was expecting her... and fearing her return.
This may or may not have anything at all to do with her ancestry, of course.