Snoke remains mystery in The last Jedi

Well, there are really all sorts of possibilities.

To name a few:

- Snoke had spies in the Empire
- Snoke was able to access transmissions regarding the Empire.
- Snoke was able to sense these occurrences through his obvious mastery of the Force.

And again, I already stated it's entirely possible that Snoke was in the Empire during that time, despite originating in the UR. Of course, that would still beg an explanation as to how or why he knew about the more specifics of those confrontations...

 

Right, I mean, no matter what, Imperial Security was clearly breached.

Now, take into account something else- Snoke is confirmed to be humanoid, but not human. The Empire clearly is racist toward nonhuman species. Even if Snoke had been involved directly with the Empire, like Thrawn, he clearly would have been quite conspicuous.

 

I feel that one way to take this answer is Snoke isn't really a major character that will be focused on. We have had one movie we haven't learned much about. Doesn't seem way may learn a lot more with TLJ. If he was meant to be a major character, we would probably know more with each director growing the character. As @Pastor Barndog said, Supreme Leader Snoke may just be that, Leader Snoke. If his arc is meant to be similar to the Emporer, then he isn't the focus and we will not learn much more other than he is the feared leader that falls. Anything else will be left for the EU.

 

He has to be a major player. He's connected to Ben Solo and Luke. Just because Rian doesn't delve too deeply into his character doesn't mean anything. I' sure Rian will give us enough to chew on until 9.

 

He might be important as an obstacle for Kylo the primary antagonist to overcome to move from apprentice to Supreme Leader.

 

Possibly. But you're right. He is Kylo's obstacle in alot of ways.

 

That may be true or they are simply misleading us to have us lower our guard so they can give us a mind blowing reveal just like Lucas did in TESB.

 

Awe, you beat me to it @Canadian Ronin. I was have been thinking the same thing. Snoke coming from the Unkown Regions makes sense except for the fact he supposedly saw the rise and fall of the Empire. I wouldn't think the would have run Holonet Cable out that far for him to get the news. I would think he needed to be somewhere in the known galaxy to get that information.

I've said that myself. If seems like they knew Snoke somewhere along the way. Ben would have probably been in contact to get him to turn. Not just from some possible contact in the womb.

 

Kylo is the anti-Luke. Luke was poor Kylo is an aristocrat son of a general. Luke lived in obscurity, Ben was given training. In Luke's moment of trial to become a Jedi he threw his sabre aside and refused to kill his father, Kylo in his moment of testing killed his father. Kylo has taken the villains journey. He has to face now it failed to give him power to defeat the girl. It has not ended his internal struggle. Snoke's training serves Snoke. Kylo was warned that Snoke is just using him. My guess is Snoke is to over confident to see his betrayal coming.

 

That's possible, and may have totally defined his character (or lack thereof) in another time or place.

But we live in an age where people are very vocal on social media about Snoke, just as they are about Phasma. We can already see them beginning to address the Phasma issue, but for Snoke it seems that they may simply be holding back.

Trust me, they've had two movies to make while being very aware how curious the public is about the Supreme Leader. They should know better than to disappoint.

 

That assumes 1- that they want to follow the OT formula with the antagonists. Meaning Kylo NEEDS an Emperor. 2- it assumes that Kylo will be redeemed therefore cannot be the primary antagonist.

I don't like putting restaints on stories before they are told. You sound like you have set yourself up for dissapointment. There are still many places they can go.

 

I suspect this is another one of those those things that's changed during production of the film. If I remember correctly the forceback once included an image of a boy. That may have been removed by request from RJ. Snoke is likely some super dark side user from the Unknown Regions. This is being set up in Thrawn and the Aftermath books. His influence on Ben could be explained any number of ways. The story group has left if vague on purpose.

 

I am sure they will not disappoint. However, I'm not sure how much of today's social media drives the story line and how much they pay attention to it compared to the OT era. Think it is hard to tell if the 'Phasma issue" is directly related to social media or just part of the developing story line.

Regardless whether the story goes in the direction you and others seem to desperately want, I hope you can keep an openness to other possibilities and enjoy the ST either way.

I don't think people are questioning what is in the novels, but it is more questioning the speculation as to how much he was influenced and if Lea was even correct about it being Snoke. From what I remember, Ben stirred and was restless in the womb but it hasn't been played out as to what was happening to him.. anything past speculation anyway.

I somehow missed that part where he was abducted. I know in Bloodlines he was with Luke and wasn't born yet in the Aftermath novels. I admit I haven't read all of the newer novels yet, which one was he abducted in.