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SNOKE REVEALED!!!!

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by ITG, Jul 12, 2016.

  1. AstromechRecords

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    How would she know sine she;s only been there since she was 5 and this was before that .
     
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    While I think Snoke could possibly turn out to be Rax, I don't feel there is anything that definitely ties the two together yet. Certainly, the description of the eyes don't match up.
     
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    I feel Rax is a red herring. Also, I feel he's too young to be Snoke - Snoke was old enough to see the rise and fall of the empire. Rax was not.
     
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    Yeah Snoke has been around for AT LEAST a good few decades since he's also seen the fall of the republic .
     
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    Why not?:confused:
    Our own history shows a lot of military leaders claiming that title.

    Where do you think he is going to end up?

    I like were this is going.:)
     
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    Not in modern day...besides Napeleon and Hitler..
     
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    And how many people even claim that title today..?
    The Emperor Akihito of Japan... and that's about it.
    And you're forgetting several other Emperpors who were 'military men' in 'recent history'. Like:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_I_of_Mexico
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Bédel_Bokassa
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Emmanuel_III_of_Italy#Emperor_of_Ethiopia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I,_German_Emperor
     
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    So, I re-did my math to calculate Gallis Rax's age, I think he would've been born around 40 BBY. I, for some reason, thought he was much younger.

    Life Debt takes place ~5 ABY. It starts out 3 decades ago, so ~26 BBY. The book doesn't state Gallius' age, but if he's 5-8, he would've been born around 31 BBY-34 BBY. In my theory (Brendol Hux is Snoke), I estimate that Brendol was born in 40 BBY, and his would give him a bit of a headway to see more of the rise and fall of the empire.

    Also, I'm under the impression that Gallius was mostly on Jakku - protecting the secret imperial research base. That really wouldn't be the best situation for him to learn leadership or force-wielding skills.
     
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    That is a really interesting theory! I'm not completely on board with the idea that Snoke is Gallius Rax, but it is plausible. Personally, I think he's Darth Plagueis. It fits in so well with the storyline, and I think the scene in Revenge of the Sith when Palpatine is telling the story to Anakin has set it up really well. We never really know for sure, but it is heavily hinted that Plagueis created Anakin using the Force. But why would he do this? Perhaps with his great knowledge of the Force, he knew that Anakin would be the key to the return of the Sith. However in the legend, Palpatine says that his apprentice killed him. (cough, Palpatine, cough) But maybe Snoke is simply a manifestation of Darth Plagueis. We never see him as anything more than a hologram. What if that is all he can be? Perhaps he is a kind of Force ghost, and he has survived from the power of the Dark Side. Palpatine states that Snoke was able to save people from death. Perhaps Palpatine was wrong and Plagueis did save himself. Maybe 'saving people from death' was only preserving their soul in the Force, not conjuring them a new body.

    Anyway, it's a wild theory, so make of it what you will.

    Plus, what you said about Rae Sloane? I reckon that's got something to do with Rey's helmet. I watched an Easter egg video on the Force Awakens a few months back and it talked about the old Rebellion pilot helmet she puts on whilst eating dinner outside her AT-AT. There's an inscription on the side. Apparently, the guy who made the video said that when translated, the inscription actually spells out RAE. She was a war hero in the Rebellion, I believe. I guess that doesn't make much sense, as Rae Sloane was working with Gallius Rax in Aftermath, but it's just something to think about. I don't even know if it's true or not, but there you go.
     
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    i'm having a hard time understanding how the barely tolerable Imperial "pig" Brendol Hux, whom Rax deigns to let live in Life Debt, could possibly be the "wise" Supreme Leader Snoke. for me it's a stretch to say Rax could be Snoke, but Brendol Hux?

    and i'm not sure what that would add narratively to the story. so Armitty then becomes Snokie-Poke's son and therefore has daddy issues over the toilet monster's love for Kylo Ren? and why would the toilet monster keep this stunted illegitimate non-FS son around to begin with if he himself is powerful? or care at all?
    even if he came to that power somehow after some kind of experiment turned him into an ancient 7 ft. tall FS humanoid?

    Brendol Hux has been around longer than TFA and he's always been a low-level non-active military commandant and a sadistic pig. doesn't really fit Snoke's profile.
    and don't even get me started in the idea of Snokie-poke getting it on with the kitchen wench ~ hahaha
     
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    I'd prefer he is new outside of the original trilogy or the prequels. I'd like for the new canon novels to give us clues to who he is now.
     
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    That is very interesting. But then.......why isn't he called Snoke :) But then again....I'm just finishing Lost Stars. lol
     
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    Supposedly everyone thinks he is Hux's dad .
     
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    I've seen that theory and posted a youtube video a couple days ago. You can make a case for it.
     
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    The Ancient Fear....
    (or some variation thereof)


    Snoke is Pablo's twitter-pet and Evil Never Dies is his baby.... so I'm just keeping score on my own.
    (Regardless of what has been debunked, confirmed or not)

    And if he's not The Ancient Fear, then I'm running with what @ITG posted. Some Imperial who seized power.
    Which is pathetic to me.... bc/ I just cannot fathom Star Wars without Sith Lords.... so we'll see how it goes.

    If Sith no longer matter, why have Kylo pray to a dead Sith Lord to ask for help, while Snoke lives?
     
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    @Joanna Welcome to the Cantina! I gave you an "original" rating for your post, but to be honest-

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    Thanks for the welcome, @RockyRoadCHu! I can totally get why you'd said that! It does sound pretty absurd. I would be happy if you heard me out, though! I made a video and wrote an article about it and I'm too new here to make a thread (I don't have 30 posts yet). My video is here:


    and my detailed article is here: http://blog.taoswf.com/?p=281

    I did realize after the fact that I got a little wonky on the timeline and I need to fix that. That was the last thing I compiled and it was like 1am when I handed it over to our web admin!
     
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    i would guess Kylo Ren's principal relationship with Vader is as his grandfather, not especially as a Sith.
     
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    The new novel supposedly states that Rax, while trimming the herd of unfit Imperial leaders, needs Hux around. Has any reason been given? Is it just an assumption that Hux is needed to head up the new kinderacademy?
     
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    Welcome to Cheers the Cantina @Joanna !
    But he doesn't ask to know more about Shmi & the family tree...

    Kylo asks to be shown the power of the darkness... one, more, time....

    so he can finish what the dead Sith Lord started.
     
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