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SPECULATION Snoke's Pretorian guards are sentinel battle droids

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Sep 13, 2017.

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    The picture with Serkis pegged one of them at about 6'3" supposedly.
     
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    We have the first case of one Original thread theory scoring a hit, which makes entire thread basically a spoiler.



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    They are not droids. It says on their page that when their magnetic field is activated it is painful to them. It was surprising they fail to say where they come from like they do with the guys in purple.
     
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    They are sentinels, confirmed in today's leak of the official SW book..

    sentinels...this word means only one thing...

    Apologize me but I am so sad for even need to explain this..:(
    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sentinel_(Contingency)

    I think this thread needs Spoiler tag people have been spoiled and I can not give warning, it was theory that was confirmed and people still think its just a theory .:(
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    It doesn't mean only one thing. They feel some pain when they activate their defenses. No reason for a droid to be put in a situation to take pain doing that. I will just say I think the chance of them being droids is maybe 1%. One of the two that posed with Serkis in a picture even appeared to have the body shape of a tall female.

    It clearly says they are making sacrifices to be one of his guards.
     
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    sentinel
    ˈsɛntɪn(ə)l/
    noun
    1. 1.
      a soldier or guard whose job is to stand and keep watch.
      "soldiers stood sentinel with their muskets"
    2. 2.
      MEDICINE
      an indicator of the presence of disease.
      "the first national HIV sentinel surveillance programme in the developing world"
    verb
    1. 1.
      station a soldier or guard by (a place) to keep watch.
      "a wide course had been roped off and sentinelled with police"

    Sentinel can and does have another meaning. Your reading to much into your own interpretation again. Your theory is a good one but its still just a theory. This is speculation, your theories don't equal spoilers. You haven't proven anything.
     
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    In Star Wars Lore there is ony one interpretation of sentinel.

    We already know sentinel droids had critical role in Contingency plany by which First Order has been created.

    This are elite sentinels.Surely lower level sentinels work in production for the First Order..

    Text has been written by Pablo Hidalgo, not a commoner..

    He choses every word, and uses Star Wars terms.

    You people are unbelievable.

    Snoke's Pretorian guards are most advanced sentinels droids, conscious to the point of developing individuality.
    Confirmed....

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    Disagree 100% due to the VD but I will come back here and give you credit if they are droids that are feeling pain activating their defenses and feeling the heavy weight of their equipment as it is described in the VD. Also why even bother pairing them up as described if they are droids. A droid could just always do the most efficient thing based on their programming.
     
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    Thakfuly there is no arbitrary desicion that can hide the truth, nor I need arbitraty confirmation that something is truth or not.(you cant change the truth)
    So I do not need any other approach but the arbitry of truth itself , which will be shown in the film.
     
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    This is incorrect, in KOTOR there were 3 classes of Jedi; Jedi Knight, Jedi Consular and Jedi........ (Drumroll please) Sentinel if I remember correctly.

    So the term has been used elsewhere within the SW universe.
     
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    I think Snoke clearly took inspiration from Sheev's royal guards for his guards.
     
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    So when they don't move like disabled (in game) but normally like the trailer shows are you willing to accept the truth?
     
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    Dude nothing has been confirmed. You're reading too much into that word based on your already-held assumptions. Just one example of humanoid sentinels in Star Wars.

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Senate_Sentinel
     
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    exactly, "Sentinel" reminds me of robots from X-Men, but the term has multiple meanings, meaning that these guards are well protected and the best of the best
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    are you saying...advanced AI? Why would snoke have easily dispatchable droids guarding him?
     
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    Such advanced setinels I think are indistingushable from biologic humanoids by their movements,in combat probably they will move their arms more quickly and have greater radius of movements than humans, with of course much greater strenght(machines).

    The most advanced sentinels have consciousness so they are difficult to be distinguished from humanoids either in terms of combat thinking.

    The difference is absolute loyality and reliability unlike biologic warriors.( Snoke needs this, he is physically weak)

    Pablo Hidalgo is without a shadow of a doubt talking about the sentinels, only sentinels ever mentioned in the context of the New canon, and those are sentient droids that became available at the end of Empire, and continued obviously to evolve under Imperial remnants, now the First Order, with many purposes, from piloting ships, to a workforce and as a guards.

    I feel funny that I need actually to post arguments for something that is 100% proven, but, anyway...FO also lacks manpower they rely on advanced sentinel droid workforce, and Snoke's guards are elite of the elite, most costly and most advanced ever.(still, they have plates instead of faces just like all sentinels described in new canon).
     
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    I am sorry brother, but while your theory has some merit, there is no proof that it is correct. "Sentinel" is another word for a guard.

    noun
    1.
    a person or thing that watches or stands as if watching.
    2.
    a soldier stationed as a guard to challenge all comers and prevent asurprise attack:
    to stand sentinel.
    3.
    Digital Technology. tag1(def 9a).
    verb (used with object), sentineled, sentineling or (especiallyBritish) sentinelled, sentinelling.
    4.
    to watch over or guard as a sentinel.

    The sentinel in the BF2 game were androids that housed and guarded Palpatine's contingency plan. In other lore there are Jedi Sentinels and Sith Sentinels. It has also been stated multiple times that according to the visual dictionary
    ...these sentinels feel pain due to the shielding on their armor.
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    I didn't played game , no.

    Just dont tell me they remove mask in game and you see dude's face beneath?:eek::D

    Anyway I apologize as you obviously perceive me as unfriendly in my posts ( I am just harsh in arguments in my opinion), but in my eyes people do not see what is clear to me 100 %.

    Pablo Hidalgo would certainly use different words than this, sentinel. Reading new canon books (Aftermath trilogy) word sentinel has one and only interpretation.

    Some ships of retreating Imperial forces (retreating in to Unknown regions) were piloted by sentinels, Including imperialis, Palpatine's yacht, that carried general Brendol Hux, and the first generation of children trained to became FO stromtroopers.

    Sentinels (not humans) were critical part for the organisation and conducting of Contingency plan(retreat in the Unknown regions), as mesagers/coordinators, pilots, workforce, and even guards.

    Those advanced droids coordinated specially picked most loyal Imperial remants in their retreat and re-forming in the Unknown regions.(canon, Aftermath).They were conducting will of Palpatine.

    It is absolutely clear sentinels continued their important role in the unknown regions in creation of the First Order.

    And PH delivers word : sentinels....I mean..:rolleyes:
     
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    Read the VD leak.

    Watch the latest TV spot.

    Use any fraction of thought that might resemble common sense.


    They're not droids.
     
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