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So lets talk about the the HATE fest IMDB reviews then.....

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by beej199, Dec 21, 2017.

  1. beej199

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    Browsing through the IMDB reviews at the moment is a weird experience.

    I genuinely enjoyed TLJ, I understand that people might not like a film but honestly don't understand whats going on over there with the user review hate fest.

    A lot of people have signed up in the last few days to write low reviews, some people clearly like being contrary, other have reasonable judgments but in the main its strange to genuinely rank a film this low...

    • decay0503 ... 3/10 (IMDB member for 12 years - one review TLJ...)
    • mikerudz ... 1/10 (signed up 16 December - one review TLJ)
    • marc5477 ... 1/10 (of the 69 films reviewed The Matrix, MoS and Wreck it Ralph get 9/10)
    • litemakr-695-716826 ... 2/10 (member for 4 years , one review TLJ)
    • penny514 ... 3/10 (TLJ only review)
    • moviefan882 4/10
    • tuanskie 1/10
    • etc...

    Its not a 1 star film.

    Are we witnessing some kind of internet phenomenon, if so whats its name!? Even the average is going down over the last few days? What gives? Did this happen with TFA?

    Why is there no positive review getting the same treatment / up-votes as the negative?
     
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    It's because of bots, writing reviews making rant videos all around the world.

    Crazy bots !!!
     
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    I don’t think IMDB. I only argue RT because we have a guy admitting it and there is a ton of 0-1s spammed than a variety of ratings. Spam.
     
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    If you like it, great. How does it matter if others don't?
     
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    I think the idea of bots has been discounted by the likes of Rotten Tomatoes. They have said that their site security teams have not found any reason to think that there was this sort of suspicious behavior.
     
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    PR speak. I’ve worked in PR as an intern, it’s a classic “we don’t want to admit site/product is flawed to save face” response. It’s happened before after a lot of major releases.

    Mass effect 3 and metacritic, prime example.
     
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    It doesn't matter, what I'm more interested in is that some people REALLY hate the film and are actively slating it, its really not 1/10 bad....I just want to understand why and what drives a 1/10 reviewer?
     
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    Well it's hard to rate it since it's part of an unfinished saga.
    If I had to rate as an individual movie I would give it 4 or 5 /10.
    If I had to rate as part of the saga so far I would definitely give it 1/10.
    That could of course change with ep9.
     
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    Same thing that drives a 10/10 reviewer, just opposite. There is no higher truth in reviews. They are just opinions. I love some movies, bands, etc that most people "don't get" in my opinion. Doesn't mean anything at all. And I absolutely hate a lot of stuff I consider pop drivel. You might think it's perfect. Ultimately, we are all right, because opinion.
     
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    I went on Rotten Tomatoes and rated it 1/2 because I really do think it is more than just a bad film, it's so bad it utterly ruins TFA and if you view it as a legitimate entry in the saga, it ruins the OT.

    I say this as someone who watched ANH in the cinema back in the 70s and consider Star Wars my one pop culture love. I love Star Wars on so many levels, from the story to the visuals to the underlying themes, the technical achievements, the beautiful music, the imagination, the characters, the feel - even the weaker parts of the prequels don't diminish any of the love i have for the saga, I see it as the work of a genius who brought out the genius in others to create astonishing, enduring entertainment.

    But Rian Johnson made such a cynical ego-driven turd of a film, I can't even imagine watching TFA ever again in the light of TLJ which is a shame because I liked it. They threw away George Lucas' story treatments for the bilge we're getting now! It's laughable - say what you will about Lucas' dialogue, as a storyteller in film, he is a true master. Now we are really seeing what happens when you put hacks in charge. JJ at least understood the heart of Star Wars but Rian Johnson, I'm bewildered as to why on earth they would give him his own trilogy on the back of this, bewildered.
     
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    Its weird, I share the same view as you in terms of the OT, but Im more accepting of the TLJ. I think RJ gets Star Wars ;-) Weird!!

    No matter what anyone says its not 1/10, films like Barb Wire, Ace Ventura Pet Detective 2 are....(films Ive never felt the need to write 1 star reviews on IMDB about as its just not worth my time!)
     
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    This is a fair point, within the context of all movies it is objectively not close to the worst but in the context of a saga that is so enduring and beloved, it's a stinker! But all I can go on is the way it made me feel in context as part of a saga.
     
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    But if we simply relegate that to PR, shouldn't we also consider other reasons like "Critics being paid off by Disney" as well? That too is a valid possibility, no?
     
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    imdb has as much value as a ratings site, as phantom menace does as a film.


    which equals zero
     
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    I agree on that, every word. I have seen pretty bad movies, including Barb Wire, Troll 2, Etc. those are 1/10 movies. Whichever way I look at this, I cannot imagine TLJ to be placed in the same category.

    (Even Prequels, which I consider the worst of the bunch in this saga, don’t get as low. I mean, you have to ruin the movie pretty well in all aspects: technical, music, visuals, etc...to achieve that)
     
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    That darn dude on Facebook.
     
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    While its a bad film, people's extra disdain come from them spotting the gimmicks. Setting up people's expectations only to subvert them while patting yourself on the back for being "different" and "bold" is gonna draw the ire of people.

    Example: the cliffhanger ending of TFA. Whats luke gonna say, imagine the history of this saber and him seeing it again. He's gotta be wondering why she's here with the falcon. etc. 2 years later. Luke tosses it over his shoulder. A scene thats rightfully set up to be dramatic, is played for laughs. When luke does finally get around to asking about han, the movie cuts away. Things like these scenes expose the amateur level writing that RJ brought to the table.
     
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    Did anyone here ever read the imdb boards when they were still up?
    If you did, than you know to take these reviews with a grain of salt.
     
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    Got it. Official response is different from what you want to believe, there it’s a lie. Every thing people don’t agree wi5 just gets labeled as fake news.
     
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    IMDB is unfortunately not reliable anymore.
    TLJ, 1/10?
    Come on....

    Have you watched Kirk Cameron Saves Christmas, or The Room?

    Emotional movie ratings are garbage.
    And it goes both ways.

    10/10 for TLJ is also a parody. Same for ESB.

    Not that I say it should be filtered or restricted to movie critics and such.
    Just that: it is what it is.

    This is the site that places Dumb and Dumber face to face with Eyes Wide Shut in its ratings...
     
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