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So...planetary shields are pointless now, right?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Unseen, Dec 25, 2015.

  1. Sylair

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    Because people need to find problems with every single thing in the film... *sigh*
     
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    Hah... this is a galaxy where there is sound in space and where planet-sized superweapons have no effect on gravity, so I think it's time we let this one go. :p
     
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    I wonder what kind of weapons they would use though... because after turbolasers and proton torpedoes, the next most powerful weapon in the Star Wars universe is a superlaser.

    Proton torpedoes wouldn't cut it, and you can't really shoot a superlaser through hyperspace (unless you have the First Order's technology).

    Perhaps they could just use Newton's First Law?
     
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    There isn't one. It's just another tactic by TFA bashers to try and discredit the film. They're trying "Plinkett tactics" but failing to understand that Stoklasa did his research before he made those reviews. These guys didn't even pay attention to what is actually in the film.
    They're easy pickings.:cool:
     
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    BUT then the movie would have ended!!!! (epic fail)
     
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    Exactly. We have a whole wave of "Plinkett" wannabes. The problem is, Plinkett chose films that actually sucked.
     
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    What's Plinkett ?
     
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    Sort of...The most reliable I can give regarding the Kessel Run is straight from Wookieepedia

    The Kessel Run was a hyperspace route[1] used by smugglers and unscrupulous freighter captains to move spice from the spice mines of Kessel at the behest of the Pyke Syndicate, who relied on the foolhardy Kessel Runs to deliver the illicit substance to their customers.[2]. The route involves several extreme changes in velocity in order to jump to, and drop out of, light speed with the minimum time spent out of hyperspace while making drops, pick ups or tight turns. It was therefore the source of much bragging between smugglers. The time to peform the run proved too difficult to arbitrate (due to the highly relativistic distances involved) but a fierce competition developed nonetheless, for the pilot and ship able to make the run while covering the shortest overall distance demonstrating the most adept maneuverability and pilotage.[source?] Han Solo, captain of the Millennium Falcon, made the infamous run in less than 12 parsecs,[3] breaking a long-held record.[1] However, Jakku scavenger Rey once misstated that the Millennium Falcon made the run in 14 parsecs, much to Solo's displeasure.[4

    I bolded the most important part.

    Han is a really good pilot...and he is really good with hyperspace....
     
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    Oh come on first not knowing Kasdan, now Plinkett? His reviews for the Prequels are quite good, but often misused for hate.
    http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/
    And no there won't be a Plinkett review for TFA, they loved it.
     
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    It's an interesting idea.
    The issue would be that the ordinance required to pop that cap off would have to be something on a nuclear level. Having the good guys launching nukes in Star Wars.. while it might seem original.. would be controversial and frankly, boring.
    We had heard early rumors that there were to be opposing superweapons in a sort of "Cold War" as the setting for Episode VII. This turned out not to be the case, and may have come from the Arndt Draft.:confused:
    It's a good idea if your operating in a science heavy space opera (Honor Harrington) and i recall that B5 and BSG spammed the hell out of it.
    I don't personally have a problem with it if you can make it exciting but I am more "militant" than a lot of my fellows here on this board. I honestly don't think they would feel comfortable with the idea, at least within the confines of Star Wars, of the good guys using "nukes".:eek:(epic fail)

    Something like this, on the other hand..
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    12) The Resistance has a weapon called the Warhammer
    And it’s a ginormous ship that has a massively armored front, that can penetrate a planet’s shields and then deploy smaller ships through the hole it’s made. There’s lots of concept art of the Warhammer coming down and busting a planet’s defenses open.
     
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    C3PO should have calculate the odds for that move.
     
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    That description seems a little confusing.
    Parsecs is a measure of distance (both in our universe and Star Wars)... yet the competition involves reducing the time spent out of Hyperspace.
    This doesn't seem to directly correlate to distance...
    How exactly does reducing time out of hyperspace, reduce the distance you travel? And how does that make it a fast ship?

    It's easier just to say that the Falcon is quicker/better at calculating hyperspace jumps, thanks to Han's modifications.
     
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    I was searching for another description when I got lazy and pulled this. The description stated that it was smuggling to moving vessels and loading the cargo onto them in areas that the empire would be unable to catch them. With multiple vessels moving different directions, time becomes quite relative to distance.

    The way I see it would be with this example. You have two cars drive opposite directions on curvy roads. Once you start, you must drive to one car and tag it before driving back the opposite direction to the other car. You can measure this by both speed or distance. So the ability to drop in an out of hyperspace, pilot extremely well, and load cargo onto moving vessels quickly makes the distance just as, if not more relative than the amount of time taken.


    I feel super nerdy for knowing...but I had to research when I questioned it myself way back.
     
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    I'm sure Threepio would have calculated the odds of it being successful had he been there....
     
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    Just as I still wonder how Solo was able to jump out from hyperspace that close to a planet, his age and lack of flight experience with the Falcon notwithstanding, I wonder how you can jump to such a conclusion.

    As a matter of fact, just fast forward the "Half in the Bag" review for TFA to 37:11 and listen to Mike. He makes his statement and then asks his buddies whether he said everything his contract with Disney required him to say, that's pure satire!

    I think we can rest assured that Red Letter Media never had any contract with Disney to say nice things about the movie, but just to even suggest that Disney "bought" positive reviews is rather outrageous.

    IMHO there will be a Plinkett review for TFA but now is not the time. Just stay tuned.
     
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    Probably because you need a pilot as good as Han to make the jump out of hyperspace just before colliding/passing through the planet. Or something. Basically, "We Need Han".
     
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    It's like any other courier job:
    Think of time you spend in hypespace like the time you spend driving.
    Think of time you spend out of hyperspace like time you spend at a traffic light.
    Thats why the parsecs matter.
     
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    OK guys for those that really can not understand what is parsecs and some hyperspace things here is a clip showing how Han Solo landed on StarKiller base.Just imagine that the slinky is the MF.Can you see where the slinky rest in the Air?That is point to get out of hyperspace.When the slinky is traveling to restore is shape...In that point the slinky STOP and jump out of hyperspace.Look how soft the slinky land in the ground.That the way it happen.Just easy...:rolleyes:.

    [​IMG]
     
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    That is the thing it doesnt take much to destroy a planet. Fire a few asteroids or capital ships at close to FTL and you could get the same success.
     

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