SOLO "Audience Score" on IMDB

Yes Solo is good film, and that is the shocking fact.

Reasons why Solo bombed will be analysed for years. Even Disney would in this moment like to explain it by been a bad movie and toss it, but that is not the case. no no.

 

That's in line with the film scores. The big problem isn't the film being terrible. It's that people just didn't go see it. I guess on the levels of disaster I'll take that over the Justice League movies which were pretty bad.

 

And this is why:

Thereby, the only real problem IMDB has remaining is the drift towards higher values because, generally speaking, people rating films as users tend to do so because they like what they cast ratings for.
That said, even though the values are a bit inflated by that behavior, the distribution is very solid across that inflated range, rather than being highly lopsided or polarized; thanks to their weighted method.

Cheers,
Jayson

 

The film seems to generally well received by most people who have seen it, so i can believe these scores. The Issue seems to be getting people to go watch it. Unfortunately its seems to be a long list of different reasons as to why people arn't going to see it.

 

And all of them dovetail backwards to a certain moment and movie in time, almost like a firework and explosion went off at that point.

Not really. Its actually great that its a good film(I mean, who wants a Bad SW film?). Had it come out and been Ice Pirates level, then Disney has an easy excuse. 'Nobody came because the movie was bad!' But it was apparently good. That it was good, and people didn't show, points straight to brand damage as a result of the Billion Dollar Boondoggle.

Outside of a very small minority that showed up, people sadly don't care about Star Wars anymore after 8, like they did before 8. You can come with any reason you want as to why, the fact is that damage is real. Solo has proven that.

Not only that, the 65% drop this weekend has pretty much put the nail in the coffin for any hope that Solo would find legs on the backend.

Either way, this stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. We know Disney was making rumblings about Solo not looking to perform well like months ago. I'm quite sure that while on the one hand, they've let Lucasfilm do their gaslighting campaign to try to convince people Everything Is Awesome, on the other, they likely have internal numbers(polling and what not) that show a great disturbance in the Force after 8 and a massive move away from the product.

And so far.. even with that they're as clueless and out-of-touch as to what to do about it as The Queen was after Princess Diana's death.
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I don't completely agree with that,, for me everything goes back to the moment when the rushed episode 7 and didn't take the time to plan out the trilogy. Yes that films did very well and most people (myself included) enjoyed it. But if you are going to rush your re-launch of the brand without a firm plan for the future and your director, who has a reputation for not planning things out, is telling you he needs more time and you only give him half of what he asks for, then you arn't really starting of on firm footing and are likly to run into problems. Which is what we have seen, from not vetting directors and how they work thoroughly before you signed them to director one of your films, to simply not planning the stories out enough in advance. The fact Maul wasn't even decided on until quite a while after Howard signed on, shows how little planning has gone into these films before shooting. I mean the more I read about what as gone on behind the scenes at Lucas film the moreI count my lucky Stars Ive really enjoyed watching 3 or the 4 films they have released.

But think the last Jedi has defiantly caused problems for them. Look their are no denying loads of people love that film, but I think what people have under estimated about what the Force Awakens did was get people talking about what happens next with all it mysterious and its cliff hanger. That intrigue and excitement carried on into Rogue one and then Last Jedi. The Last Jedi basicly put an end or killed of all the mysterious, so since that films released people haven't really been talking about what happens next, that buzz coming out of the force awakens which remained until the last Jedi has gone. Not keeping that intrigue, whether you love it or not from a story telling perspective, was a terrible move from a marketing perspective. Once you add that to the amount of fans who hated the film, then you really have had a big drop off in the excitement for Star Wars. And once you factor in the terrible release date, the fact it was a film people didn't really see the point in making, all the drama behind the scenes and what was a fairly poor marketing campaign that seemed to be hiding Han Solo, (which makes the point of making a Han Solo film seem a little weird) then you had a perfect storm of years of bad management and planning.

Its just a shame that it all came together to damage a films that was actually really good.

 

As stated, no problems with 7. And the problem wasn't the time. They had plenty of time both before and after 7 to work it out. By their own admission, 8 was exactly what they wanted. They don't feel they could have made a better film. Rainy, to this day, refuses to acknowledge any problem with his product. He made the movie he wanted to make.

And that film largely took everything setup by TFA, and chucked it into the night. Rey's Parents? Randoms. Snoke? LOL... THAT GUY?... Dead. Hux? Even more of a carciture. Poe? Goofus needs to learn! Ren? Gives Bi-Polars a bad name. Luke? LOL... THAT GUY?... Dead.

Everything was open-ended. There were literally dozens of ways they could have gone with the plots, and the fans readily came up with even the silly ones. They simply chose *not* to continue the arcs in favor of... whatever that was in 8.

Pretty much.. ya.

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Most seem to use a 7 out of 10 as average like school kids and below that for failure. (I use a 5 for average.)

 

It's a good film. Not great, just good. Metacritic actually has the fans and critics agreeing for once, and I think it's a fair estimation of what I think the film is. A solid 6/10. Good, not great.

 

Truth be known, Rian ruined Solo by destroying The Last Jedi. Solo was great but people won’t go see it because of the suck that is TLJ.

 

General audience do not talk Star Wars that much. General audiences like TFA/TLJ, but never showed any enthusiasm for a Solo film. Star Wars fans never showed enthusiasm for Solo so it's not surprising that general audiences stayed away.

I know some people who didn't like the TLJ are desperate to blame it for Solo's issues. The Last Jedi didn't cause critics to give it mixed reviews. The Last Jedi didn't make Star Wars fan unenthusiastic about Solo, The Last Jedi didn't make general audience unenthusiastic about Solo.

That's the reality.

 

I was shocked to read that Harrison Ford not only adored Solo, he watched it twice.

https://www.imdb.com/news/ni62061913

 

If TLJ had any major effect on the hype levels for Solo, you would have seen enthusiasm before TLJ came out and then dismay after TLJ came out. Instead people were forecasting doom for Solo before TLJ was released, there was nothing but bad press since production began, in fact people were hesitant about the film the moment it was announced. At no point was there ever a big group of people on board with the existence of the film, and general audiences aren't going to go see a film with such a small marketing push.

 

Yeah, just like Wonder Woman ruined Justice League. It's always the far more successful and much higher rated film that destroys everything rather the movie the fails to meet expectations itself, it's own reviews, or the marketing fails to sell general audiences.
After all the people who bothered to see Justice League seemed to like it well enough.

 

He's very happy someone else is playing a role we are much more attached to than he ever was.

 

Yeah with episode 7 he was extra happy xD