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Solo "bombs", so what happens next?

Discussion in 'Solo' started by darth sputnik, May 28, 2018.

  1. RoyleRancor

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    false.
     
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    KOTOR is considered one of the greatest video games of all time...whille disney made the first star wars film that was a box office disaster. You sir are incorrect
     
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    As the story goes deeper and the Disney market shares are dropping further from -7% to -11% , the case of treatment of Star Wars by Disney has came to attention of indesputable and non-biased economic experts .


    The Wall Street Journal

    " Solo looks like a box-office flop

    — a once unfathomable performance for the “Star Wars” spinoff about beloved character Han Solo that could signal wavering support among fans for how Disney is treating the storied franchise. "


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    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/s...-with-steep-drop-in-second-weekend-2018-06-03
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    By this Wall Street Journal actually points on Disney for maltreatment of Star Wars storied franchise that caused wavering of fans which can have (already has) economic consequences on the entire company and the bussines in the film industry.

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    Unless KOTOR is the worst OR story and Solo is the best Disney one, this arguement is illogical and irrelevant.
     
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    That doesn't mean that your fanfiction drivel masquerading as plot ideas actually count because they're in the same era as something that was good.
     
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    I hate to burst your pessimistic bubble but you forgot a decimal point Disney is not down -11%. It’s actually down .11% or a couple of cents on a 100 dollar share price now if this continues a down ward trend over months then maybe it might become a problem but right now not so much.
     
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    It is a great VIDEO GAME.
    But a great video game does not a great movie/story make.

    What works as a game will not work as a movie and vice versa.

    I mean, this is clearly why a video game movie is a sure fire hit right?!?!
    Assassin's Creed was Oscar worthy no?
    Mortal Kombat? A true classic rivaling Citizen Kane.
    Resident Evil? One of the best trilogies of all time.
     
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    :p :p
     
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    The ironic thing about KOTOR is that at its heart, it's almost as derivative of the original trilogy as people complained The Force Awakens was.

    Again, I see this kinda like the people clamoring for a Heir to the Empire adaptation. It's easy to say "we wanted this instead", but when something actually is incorporated and becomes part of "BIG DISNEY", it becomes uncool by default for many people.

    Just like I'd anticipate a #NotMyThrawn movement in that HttE adaptation because his skin wasn't blue enough or whatever you people get mad at, I think we'd get a #RemoveKOTORMovieFromCanon peanut gallery as well.


    Just... let people enjoy things, and move on if you personally don't. This fixation on hatred is so ridiculously toxic, and there's no doubt some people just won't be happy no matter what.
     
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    That's where I disagree. Back then, George still didn't really believe all of those old EU stories were canon. He also didn't have a group of people who kept all of those stories at consistency, hence the reason why the PT ignored some elements of it. Many books contradicted one another back then. Disney isn't going to allow a movie superseded a book or comic just to tell a story . That goes against everything that they are trying NOT to do hence why they abandoned the old EU. This one thing that separates SW from other stories, is consistency. Even if they make an Obi-Wan film, him and Maul wasn't planned for a rematch on film since they showed him and Maul fight on Rebels. They must have other plans for Obi-Wan. Maul doesn't have to be Obi-Wan's nemesis for the 4th time, im sure there are plenty of other threats out there. Even Jon Kasdan made a comment about it. I know I personally and many other people don't want to see Obi-Wan v Maul part 4. Let it him die for the 2nd time and stay dead.

    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 4, 2018, Original Post Date: Jun 4, 2018 ---
    Unfortunately, he was right about that. The vast majority of Fan theories did suck.
     
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    Ok Mods....this is the crap I’m talking about.
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    Absolutely it was a marketing problem. There was practically none of it.
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    This is what fanboy entitlement does. It puts up pure BS videos and the lemmings jump over the cliff with it.

    The fandom is broken
     
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    I honestly can't take someone seriously if they think that having women in Star Wars alienates men.

    Agreed, that's basically just blatant sexism.
     
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    Just to clarify, the video I posted was about how little "insults" Kathleen Kennedy really made and why this whole crazy obsession with her is even less justified, then I previously thought.
     
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    One thing I never understood about KOTOR (I had fun with the game and it's one of the best SW games that ever been made), but the game took place 1000 years before OT and yet it had the exact same tech as the OT, while the PT showed the evolution of SW universe compare to what we saw in the OT. KOTOR is great and all but I have a feeling you're looking at KOTOR with rose colored glasses.
     
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    Uh oh....heresy!
    ;)
     
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    I dont believe LF has any intention of Maul being involved with Obi-Wan. That is just reaching into the well one to many times. I think Maul was a lead in if they make a Boba Fett movie. They have him leading a criminal enterprise. I would think that the story of Boba Fett would be Hutt cartel vs Crimson Dawn. Boba Fett taking out, but not killing Maul. Gets Maul out of running criminal enterprise for his role in Rebels.
     
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    To be fair, that's partially because Star Wars is far more fantasy than Sci-fi.

    Look at Game of Thrones, for instance- the tech between the Long Night and the events between the main series really isn't much changed, and that's a time period of about 8,500 years give or take.

    Star Wars has a lot of tech, but it isn't about the tech so much- or at least, not so much about its advancements. There's always the trope of superweapons and hyperdrives that are fitted onto the "fastest ship in the galaxy", but the actual science behind these things are shaky at best (remember, the Death Star superlaser runs on crystals). They may as well be rings of power and scrolls of fleet feet, as far as that's concerned.

    And that's not a bad thing at all. I think the cross-genre mixing of Star Wars is one of the series' greatest strengths.
     
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    Cool. Thanks for clarifying.
     
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    As of the moment I am writing this, Disney stock is down a shade over 2% since Solo's release day, compared to the DJIA which has gone up by 1 quarter of 1 percent during the same time frame.

    I am not saying Solo is the reason for this, but that is where we currently stand at 11:15 AM, Monday June 4th.
     
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    Ron Howard must have dark hours,I feel sad for that man.His film is a good SW film.

    Little weasel Rian Johnson found appropriate to send twitt to Howard with compliments.

    Here's what Howard answered!

     
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