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OFFICIAL NEWS South Korean description of TLJ released

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Lord Skywalker, Nov 26, 2017.

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Did you noticed (question)? mark between Kylo and Rey before reading this

Poll closed Feb 11, 2018.
  1. Yes I am

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  2. No,I didn't , thanks.

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  1. LadyMusashi

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    The same could be said for defending him, no? I feel that there is a lot already he could be judged for right now, but who knows? Maybe Rian manages to change my mind.

    And we are almost there. Almost... The time is passing by soooooo slooooowly... This is one instant the carbonite freezing chamber would come handy. Where are all those inventors inspired by Star Wars?
     
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    Kylo has murdered his father, killed many related and non-related people, and already participated in genocyde - coldblooded killing of billions of people in destruction of Hosnian system not in a defense, but as an act of agression..

    I am really eager to see how the story group will made him justiffied. Do they think they don't need to do it at all?:eek:

    Lucas had maintained standards, Vader redeemed himself in front of his closest being and the only one who could understand and forgive him,his son Luke, and than he died since galaxy could not, and did not forgive him. Force has forgiven him, but galaxy didn't (Bloodline)

    Kylo, has done already almost as much as Vader(in fact killed his own father, so he surpased him)...I am afraid for moral message new Star Wars will left to young generations more than anything if story will go by "forgiving" all of this...even Rey falling in love in this monster(Lucas again maintained standards by making Padme died of sorrow for loving such monster).

    We shall see, I hope Disney/LSL understand their responcibility .

    Ying-yang-grey story,atrocities forgiving story its morraly corrupt story. Many people will not accept it.
     
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    oh hyperbole.

    Ren killed two people (Han and Lor Tekka). he ordered a village full of combattants shot, and then he silently stood by while Snoke ordered the Hosnian system destroyed. so far, these are his crimes (that we know 100% are canonically true). not even close to Vader's trail of blood.

    you mean the company that just made the top-grossing movie of the season about two brothers, one of whom kills and maims and is out to take over the world and could be blamed for the death of their father, but in the end gets a hero's welcome to the utter delight of many many fans? that company?

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    "Kylo, has done already almost as much as Vader(in fact killed his own father, so he surpased him)"

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    Remember that Anakin has no biological father.
     
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    Kylo watched killing of billions and was high in command during this, could have actually influenced decision...(if Hux influenced decision to destruct Hosnian Kylo could have tried to do oposite...but he didn't cared).Thus he is responcible for genocyde...

    That is what I am talking, that is my fear, a crossroad could happen in which I will not feel moral axis in Star Wars anymore.
     
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    if you think Ren could have influenced this decision, you haven't been paying attention to the movie.
    do you see him standing on that bridge?
    do you know why he's there instead of down on Starkiller with Hux?

    because he disapproves of something he feels he could not control.

    that makes him potentially a coward. and in strictly legal terms, maybe an accessory (at best).
    still doesn't even begin to touch Vader's crimes.
     
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    Oh come on, Kylo found a curriage and ways to kill his own father while looking him in the eyes, in order to feed his corrupted egoistical ambitions....please this is so low .I am stopping even commentin this anymore.
     
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    *Mic Dropped*
     
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    Like lando running his own city? This race stuff at every turn is annoying.
     
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    I 90% agree with this statement the other 10% - Well I have seen it myself in different forms, I can't deny its not there. I wish I could but it would be a lie. But then again I think the same with misogyny. It's there alright but some either deny it or bury it. I can say the same thing about homophobia. In fact the homophobia and misogyny go and hand in hand.
     
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    Killing his father was bad enough, but Vader killed a whole generation of Jedi to be including children.
     
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    We still don't know what tipped 'ben' over the edge. Annakin was a murderer before he switched. We still don't know how and why he became Kylo. I bet he probably killed before hand. Perhaps the 'academy' ? Or spmething else?
     
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    Possibly, but I'm not sure of the timeline exactly. I can't keep up with it. How long has Luke been on Ahch-to? When did Kylo go with Luke?
     
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    I think the overall consensus using books as sources, five six years before The Force Awakens? But then again how long was Sideous running around pretending to be Palpatine? Difficult one to answer.
     
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    You would have to take that up with the white Astrophysicist, Dr. Carl Sagan. Those were his words. He is the reason we got Lando running Cloud City.
     
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    Luke has been on Ahch-to as @p03 said around 5-6 years since at the time of Bloodline Luke and Ben were still together as far as Leia knows. When Ben started his training with Luke is not clear yet.
     
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    Agreed...And lets not forget, using this logic that Kylo is responsible for genocide because he is high on the chain of command and did nothing to stop it, then Vader would also be responsible of genocide as he was present and watched the destruction of Alderaan. The FO is only a shadow of what the Empire used to be and Vader's 30 year reign of terror. Kylo is still a Vader wanna-be at this point.
     
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    Vader personally slaughtered kids. We don't know the ages of Lukes students..yet... but as of what we know now Vader probably leads in the atrocity Olympics if these are the types of arguments we are making for whose the worse guy....um THEY ARE BOTH TERRIBLE DUDES HEREGO THE NECESSITY TO BE REDEEMED. No matter your position on whose worse no one thought it a good idea to give Vader a love interest especially the heroine of the trilogy...
     
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    Are we still talking about this south corean chart?
     
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    Exactly my thoughts.
    If there is no shocking ending, or it isnt shocking in your opinion then the whole movie is going to feel like it hasnt delivered what was promissed.
    So i really hope that the plot twist will be shocking.
     
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