Speculation on Rey’s past

This is exactly my thinking. If we go back to Luke's vision, he sees himself in Vader once he decapitates him. So in that same direction, it seems that there is absolutely more to Rey's vision in the cave.

What she saw was two figures converging into one, that became her as it appears... There is definitely more to this, which I believe we will find out in EP 9.

There is a chance that she is a nobody, but I highly doubt it. I like that type of message, but I feel there is definitely more to this without a doubt.

 

It meant that Rey knew the truth herself but wouldn't confront it + that she was alone.

 

I saw it again yesterday and that was my impression. The Rey narration emphasises that the cave will show her her parents and it shows her herself. It doesn’t make sense to say the cave is telling her that it doesn’t matter because the narration was fairly clear that the cave would definitely show her. Anyway it’s a dark side cave why would it be giving her positive moral messages or trying to save her feelings? Also when KR is talking later he makes her say who her parents are. She says, ‘Nobody’. He then restates that as “nobodies”. But that isn’t what she said. Her parents are Nobody. As usual he gets the wrong end of the stick.

No clear view of what that actually adds up to, but the fact seems straightforward to me.

 

I personally think most of that scene was there for visual effect rather than having any deep meaning behind it, which ironically could be an analogy for the movie itself. I don't think the visuals in that scene really meant anything. At the end of it, she's looking at herself in the reflection and the inference is her parents are no one, which is the only important part.

 

I believe both the cave scene of parallel Reys and Kylo Ren's interpretation of her parentage, were deliberately done ambiguous, because on one hand we get an answer that could potentially be a final one, but on the other hand, it's vague enough that it can act as a placeholder in case the writers want to turn it completely around in a sequel. And that in itself is ingenious.

 

I am still enthralled by that scene. I am also wondering whether Kylo spoke the truth........and in extension Rey exactly knows who her parents are. What she can remember is that they were her parents but nothing else really. She didn't have the mental understanding at that age to judge whether they are special or not. I think its a beautiful reveal, especially in the context of Kylo's attempt at converting Rey. "You're no one, you're nothing...........but not for me. Join me, please". This in itself is strenghtened by the fact that Luke gives Rey the feeling that she is in fact nobody, albeit unintentionally.

 

The way the first two movies have gone, I'm going to venture to guess in IX she'll be the daughter of somebody, or clone of somebody, but she won't be nobody. Misdirection seems to be the order of the day, and with all the fan theories out there, I don't think they wanted to give anyone the impression the plot was predictable, or more to the point, they wanted to at least throw people for a spin and create more dialogue.

Put it this way, if we had found out she was a Skywalker, most would say "I knew it!" some with excitement, some with boredom or anger and every emotion in between. Now people are surprised, so few will expect a reveal in episode 9 on this subject.

 

The more I watch these films the more I come to the same conclusion:

JJ left it open for multiple options and didn't really 100% know where it would go. RJ picked the random option but still left it open for change in Episode 9.

They are making it up as they go along.

 

Absolutely they are when you have each Director submit their story separate of the beginning of process from day one.

 

But does Rey REALLY know her parents?
She remembers that her parents were not Luke or Han and Leia, otherwise she would have recognized them no?
But the fact that she never sees her real parents faces I find a bit worrying though.

And IF she ever turned out to be a Skywalker, what reasons could Han, Leia or Luke ever had to leave her on Jakku with no one to take care for her?!

So if her parents really turned out to be Nobodies it still brings mystery with it, and also a very real message to the audience.
It doesn't matter where you come from, you can still rise above it.

 

You are absolutely right. I thought she would be a Skywalker, but I am not even sad in the slightest bit that they went for nobody. It changes things up and how it was revealed in the movie was well done.

 

I like that she’s nobody, I hope they keep it that way. The Skywalker line is The exception to the Jedi order, otherwise we would probably see more kids from the powerful Jedi in the PT and exception to the code of allowing attachment to others. Yoda, Kenobi, etc....did pretty well with the force without a storied heritage. The nobody solution for Rey feels right for me at least and opens up a lot more possibilities in future films/books.

 

I'm not sad either, we already have a skywalker (or Solo really) in Ben and that is what makes him unique.
Rey is the same way, an unusually strong force user without any significant pedigree to show for.
Unrelated to the Skywalkers but maybe.....related to another force sensitive family?

Or maybe not...either way I dig it.

 

I don’t understand how people get that her parents are nobody from the cave scene.

 

The cave scene only shows herself.
It's symbolic really, you don't have to come from great parents to be great yourself.

That doesn't mean that Rey's parents are actual nobodies though, the fact that she hasn't seen their faces is weird and I think we haven't heard the last of it.

 

Rey's mystical cave experience offers many metaphorical and interpretive possibilities.

Her parentage could be left as is, and that would be powerful enough: Rey is someone from figurative "nobodies," a clue that the next Chosen One or simply Force wielder can and will come from anywhere, not merely a lineage historically known to be particularly strong with the Force.

If the storytellers decide to make something more out of this cave, they could.

Here's one quick example:

Rey is a product of herself. She is effectively her own parent:

Long ago, just after the Battle of Jakku, her parents left her behind. She did not fare well in the desert and was near expiration until she wandered into an abandoned Imperial facility, a cloning facility.

There she meets a glitchy holographic medical droid who asks her if she needs to regenerate. Rey weakly nods yes and steps into a chamber. A button flashes.

"We'll begin once you're ready," says the droid. "Simply push the button to begin."

The next time Rey awakes she is staring into a mirror, and the droid stepping back. "The process is complete. Good as new," the droid comments.

Rey regards her reflection. She is older now, a young woman. Her memories are hazy at best.

She does not know she is now a clone, reborn into the world by her own hand. Her first impulsive question is, "Where are they? Are they here?"

"That information is top secret," says the droid, believing Rey is referencing Imperial personnel who have long since evacuated the facility. The droid disappears.

Rey is confused and leaves the facility. She eventually comes across a downed and abandoned AT-AT, which she adopts as her makeshift home in the desert.

There she begins to count the days as she grapples with a vague remembrance of having been left behind.

As either an act of denial or psychological self-preservation, she ultimately convinces herself her parents would return some day. And she would wait for them. That was her only hope, she believed at the time.​

Were such a scenario to occur, this could then make Ren's comments to Rey even more stinging and manipulative than they already are, as he then would be going right to that sorest spot in her memory and tapping that doubt, those closureless emotions, by him declaring her a nobody, mainly as a means to secure his power by making her his ally and enabling him to forward his agenda to reign as he imagined Darth Vader would have, had he overthrown the Emperor and claimed the Empire as his own.

Yes, a lot of ways this could go, if they decide to do anything with it =)

 

Rey has no idea who her parents are because the writers aren't sure who her parents are, so it hasn't been figured out yet lol.

 

I remember reading somewhere that while the Jedi will sometimes lie, the Sith never do. When Kylo was telling Rey about her parents, I think he was telling her the truth as he understood it.

It's good- it reinforces the idea that Force is not confined to a few powerful families. This is also reflected by the little urchin at the end displaying Force powers.

 

Why do I keep hearing this? When was ever the force confined to a few powerful families?