SPOILER Speculation Storyboard

You're right...it's not on Jakuu. It's clearly on a soundstage.

I have read parts of the script and MSW is around 35% right. All the released merch/media has been showing the first 25% - 35% of the first half of the movie. Based on some concept art, We see more of The Falcon's interior than ever before so they might be somewhere. I can assure you that they do not go straight to Takodona from Jakku. Otherwise the film would be 45 minutes long. Maybe Han/Chewie end up in the freighter and escape and end up with The Falcon. And those Guvians? They're only shown with Poe, based on what you guys have been allowed to see. If we see them again, it will be at the castle.

 

That's PR nonsense... especially now. Finn and Rey lightsaber duel, Starkiller aerial battle, the Resistance base scenes, and probably some of the Takodana battle scenes are ALL from the 2nd half.

Not necessarily. 3-4 planets (depending on if the Resistance base is also on Takodana) is pretty normal for Star Wars.
And they seem to spend a long time on Jakku in this movie (assuming a lot of stuff doesn't get cut).

That's the theory according to MSW. I mean, there has to be something between Jakku and Takodana to explain Chewbacca's absense from the shot where they are approaching Maz Kanata's castle, and why his arm is bandaged during the battle.

Where's this? I've never seen them with Poe.
And Han even references them in Smuggler's Run.... Sounds as though they are more likely to appear on this freighter/transport.

 

I meant during the scene during the backstage footage of Poe during his attempted escape.

 

It will show up.......the saber that is ;-)

 

Different kind of interior... different ship.

Now this still shows a bit of the same set/location the Guavians appear in, giving a fairly close look at the kind of texture and feel of the kind of people we are dealing with:

This ship certainly doesn't look as clean or as well maintained as a First Order Star Destroyer.
Looks like something used by pirates.

Why was Poe on Jakku? Why does Kylo Ren show up there?
The lightsaber is the best explanation we have for any of this so far...

And my understanding is that it's hidden in BB-8 up until they leave Jakku, then given to Maz when they get to Takodana... who seems to hold onto it until she meets Leia... and Leia then gives it to Finn at the Resistance base just before he heads of to Starkiller. That could be before or after the scene where he passes Poe. Who knows what is in that bag of his?

 

I think that it could be the same ship for Poe...just the color grading (DI) was obviously not finished at all. Poe is on Jakku because Finn saves him and they both crash but Poe blacks out at first which is why Finn steals his clothes, thinking he is dead.

 

It's more than just colour gradation. There's a coarseness to the latter

Yes, they escape there... but how does Poe end up on the Star Destroyer to begin with?


Exhibit A - Celebration Anaheim, Force Awakens Panel - Oscar Isaac revealed that Poe Dameron "(Poe Dameron's) been sent on a mission by a certain princess, and he ends up coming across Mr John Boyega's character and their fates are forever intertwined."


Exhibit B - From SDCC BTS Reel... character in brown resistance jacket sneaks around blue squadron X-wing on desert planet. Off screen from the still (visible in full video) are huts and things burning, presumably from the village we've seen in other shots.
Also note the spot light.



Exhibit C - Journey to the Force Awakens: Moving Target - Epilogue

“Dameron’s commitment is absolute,” Ematt said. “And he’s our best pilot. He’ll get what we need.”
“I’ve never worried about Poe’s commitment. My worry is for what that commitment may cost him.”
Ematt nodded, and Leia peered at him.
“I know that look,” she said. “Is there news from Jakku?”
“Yes, General,” Ematt said.



Exhibit D - From recent trailer sneak peek... Confirms character in Exhibit B is Poe Dameron (same blue squadron X-wing in frame).


So we know from these exhibits that Poe Dameron begins his story in the film on Jakku. We also know that he get's captured, and with help from Finn, they steal a special forces TIE fighter, and crash back on Jakku.

These questions remain: What was the mission? Why was Poe Dameron sent to Jakku? Why does Kylo Ren go there? What was so important about Jakku to warrant a force of about 80 stormtroopers, Phasma, and Kylo Ren himself heading to the surface to deal with it?

The only answer we have been given, is Luke's lightsaber...
Everyone seems to assume that the First Order are spending all these resources tracking Finn down to Takodana... they forget all about Poe's mission. They forget that BB-8 is Poe's droid and managed to escape the village and end up with Rey.
It stands to reason that BB-8 carries something important to both the Resistance and the First Order.
What is it?
Starkiller plans? That would be too repetitive of ANH.
Luke's lightsaber? That makes things interesting.

 

There id s courseness to the entire trailer. WHY do you think that Poe is on Jakku at the beginning instead of the rumour of being taken there by Finn? Are you sure that BB-8 is Poe's?

 

Finn accidentally "awakends" the force.

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 21, 2015, Original Post Date: Oct 21, 2015 ---

yOu need a "smart" icon...maybe a Jar Jar icon for "smart"...or "smart ass..."

 

Well clearly... the rumour about Poe being taken to Jakku by Finn is wrong.

I believe the first act of the story has been crafted in such a way to mirror the opening of ANH.
People carrying stuff are intercepted by bad guys.
Someone hides object of importance in droid and is captured while the droid manages to escape.
Hero discovers droid which changes life forever.
Except in this case, Rey doesn't just find the droid, but a turncoat Stormtrooper as well.

Unless something better shows up between now and the movie, I'd say the Skywalker lightsaber is as important as anything else they could have used... and it sets up the whole search for Luke plot pretty well.

Yes. I have no doubt about it:

"BB-8 - BB-8 is the spherical, loyal Astromech Droid of the Resistance pilot Poe Dameron."
http://www.starwars.com/databank/bb-8

Why else would a modern astromech droid be on Jakku?
Why else would the First Order care so little about recapturing Poe Dameron? Because Kylo Ren interrogates him and finds that a droid has what he was looking for.

I don't know about that one...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Starkiller Base variants of Finn, Rey, and Kylo Ren were all released on Force Friday, as well as Poe Dameron's black X-wing (which isn't seen on Jakku). Clearly, these are not all from the first 1/3rd of the film.
Sure, It may not be a lot of stuff, and yes, they don't have toys of all the background characters from those parts... but they're still something.
i.e. PR nonsense.

 

they were all released in relation to the first two acts of the movie. Also, you think it mirrors the ANH escape with THREEPIO and R2?

 

Actually, the original quote was the first 1/3rd of the film...
But still, they're not all connected to the first two acts either. Finn on Starkiller by the end of Act 2? I doubt it.

I think it will draw heavily on it.

Basically take the opening from ANH, swap the death star plans with Luke's Lightsaber (object of importance to both sides), C-3PO with Finn (the first character to speak, who is someone who really doesn't like the situation they are currently in), R2-D2 with BB-8 (the "message carrier"), Princess Leia with Poe Dameron (the brave hero who is captured after concealing object in droid), Darth Vader with Kylo Ren (the bad guy), and Captain Antilles with Village Elder/Vicar/MVS (the guy who get's killed/interrogated by the bad guy while searching the immediate area), and there you have the opening scene of TFA.
The main differences are that BB-8 and Finn start out on different sides of the conflict, and escape in different methods at different times.
You could even got a bit further, replacing Luke Skywalker with Rey Jawas with random scavengers, and sandpeople with Unkar's thugs.

Still just not sure if BB-8 finds somewhere to hide until the First Order clear out, or if he just rolls away and gets ignored. But I would not be surprised to see a scene like the latter, where two stormtroopers spot BB-8 rolling off into the distance and one will raise his gun to shoot, when the other stops him saying something like "Let it go, it's just a droid."

 

i totally agree with you on the second part, I meant what you said, but i was just averaging. for myself. that's why i want to have a marathon a week before we have a premiere.

 

@thehiredgun
I notice in your latest update 2.1, you've placed the shot of Chewbacca from the international trailer on Starkiller.

I disagree... partly.

I believe the first shot is on the Giant Freighter/Pirate transport.
The closeup of his hand pressing the remote detonator however, appears to be a different location, and could very well be from Starkiller.

 

GOOD POINT

 

Based on the new trailers and TV spot, do you still feel this way? Even with the scene of Chewie hitting the detonator?

 

I think this was on MSW (I hate to say) early on that I think may be somewhat accurate. Somewhere I read about Poe being sent to do some negotiations with the FO. As many have noted, some of this seems reminiscent of WII and Nazi Germany. Even after the end Germany was still regonized and still functioned as a nation but with limitations and sanctions. To me this seems plausible here. What's left of the Empire, or FO, is still operating with limitations and Poe is sent for whatever reason to meet with Hux. While there, BB8 may have had a secondary mission to steal information or maybe even an object. We already know Kylo presumably collects Vader artifacts. If he went all the way to Endor for a Helmet, who is to say he didn't go to Cloud City for a lighsaber. Maybe he already had it in his possession and BB8 steals it during their visit because Lea needed to find Luke. Poe and BB8 leave, Kylo realizes he's been robbed and chases Poe down to Jakku. Poe hides it in BB8 and sends him on his way before he is captured and taken back to the SD to be interrogated by Kylo. Later, Finn had enough, escapes with Poe back to Jakku. This might be a stretch but would explain Poe on Jakku before the capture and Finn/BB8 after with his jacket.