Star Trek - Reboot Continuity

Why, in specifics, is it better than JJ's reboot? ?

 

JJ'S reboot, while needed, was more like Star Wars in nature. Not the planet killing stuff, but the very nature of how the film operated. Star Trek, at it's core is a tall ship in space, on a humanist mis sion of discovery. So when you watch Star Trek there should be a sense of discovery. Abrams star trek kinda feels more like 'coast guard in space'.. there's no real venturing into the unknown.
Beyond, in contrast, takes the action oriented foundation JJ built, and transforms it back into a true star trek film. We venture forth into the unknown, kirk reflects on the toll it has taken on the crew and himself. There's a mystery in space to be solved. That's a key element of star trek, btw. As Geordi once said: "every question we answer about it captain leads us to three more questions!"

 

his ST was more star wars than tfa .

 

Only if your definition of "star wars" is this:

And not this:


Still, for you, I highly recommend this movie. Plenty of aliens making significant contributions to the story, a giant cgi world.. politics.. all those "big" things that "everyone" wanted to see in TFA.

 

My definition is a hybrid .

 

I definitely enjoyed Beyond. I also loved all of the Star Trek: Enterprise "references". The first Warp 4 ship, the transporter's biomatter issue, the Xindi and Romulan Wars (the latter of which was very nearly part of ENT), MACO's, Federation founding... I just love all of the cohesiveness with the ST show I think is least appreciated, when I feel it should be. It feels the most, to me, like new discoveries and growing humanity. It feels "within reach". And it felt really hard, to be an explorer in a hostile galaxy.

It made me want to see the Romulan War, and wish we'd get more seasons of ENT, even more than I already have. Such a shame that it was cancelled.

 

You know, since you bring up the Romulans, I've been thinking about them a lot lately. This whole Beyond movie has me thinking back to what went wrong with Trek in the late 90s and 2000s.
I had the chance to read Pillars book on Insurrection last week.. very illuminating. But what shocked me is that Patrick Stewart thought the Romulans were weak villians.. And I just cannot agree with that. Romulan activity of any kind was cause to bring the ship to red alert.
I am totally with you on the Romulan war. I think they waited too long to build to that war when it was becoming painstakingly obvious that blind adherence to the old seven season model was killing them. They should have gone Romulan after the first time they dodged the axe.

 

What went wrong was a small budget, bad effects, & not believing enough to give a proper budget .

 

I really enjoyed Beyond and I haven't been a fan of the reboots to date. Always thought (with a few notable exceptions) Trek was always better on the small screen but Beyond captured some of the TOS spirit - in parts it was cheesy and brilliant at the same time - and those Enterprise references that have been mentioned.

 

I voted for Reboot, although I like originals better but only because there is a history and nostalgia with them. Reboots are making alot of things for better so I have faith in their development and the future. Just yesterday I watched Beyond, and while it did not amazed me it was incredibly fun and enjoyable to watch and some of the scenes are literally like taken from my fan-fiction and dreams so yeah, I definitely see the quality and potential in it.

 

It certainly didn't help.

 

I'm more a fan of the original Star Trek content (TOS, Next Generation etc.) but I really enjoyed two of the three reboot movies. Especially Beyond, it felt like an episode of an older series. Nevertheless, I think the new movies got way too much action. So yes, I want it to be more scientific. The one thing I really miss in the newer movies is "exploring the final frontier".

RIP Anton Yelchin, you played a great Chekov.

 

I wonder how they will address Chekov's presence...to be fair he didn't have much to do in STB but this also make me worry that we will be introduced to yet another timeline -_-
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Or it could be something with how they did Superman chilling with his dad ... or worse --- A CLONE

 

Can't wait to see this, I'm glad a dad/son reunion is gonna happen.

 

So they've milked the rebooted franchise that Abrams 2009 hit established pretty dry to this point. And they had two moderately successful sequels. They done all this without pulling out the big guns - literally and figuratively. I'm - of course - referring to the Klingons. But now it is time. I have not seen any news on if they plan to make another movie - I'm assuming they do. I think the franchise could really bounce back if they do a Klingon war trilogy. They could bring back Carol Marcus in part 2(5th movie) kinda along the same vein as "The Adjustment Bureau". Otherwise, it needs to happen completely unlike anything from the original movie series. They already did "Wrath of Khan" and that was only BARELY not a flop. In the '09 film, they perfectly set the stage for completely new stories and arcs. They did this fairly well with Beyond, but need to keep working in that direction IMO.