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SPECULATION Star Wars 4k?

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by deadmanwalkin009, Mar 9, 2018.

  1. deadmanwalkin009

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    Not sure which fourm to put this in but with The Last Jedi being the very first 4k SW movie that is coming out at the end of the month, when do you think Disney/LFM going to release the other SW movies in 4k? I remember reading rumors about the OT was getting a 4k treatment years ago but haven't heard much about it since then. When do you think we'll start seeing more 4k SW content? After the Fox/Disney acquisition is 100% done? I find it weird that they are releasing TLJ in 4k but didn't release TFA and Rogue One in 4k. Any one want to take a stab at it?

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    Wouldn't be a bad idea to do it this December, when there's a Star Wars shaped hole in my holiday plans. Also, they'd be great stocking stuffers.
     
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    Disney is usually very late to the game in terms of new release formats. Their first 4k Blu-Ray was released only last year (it was for GotG vol. 2,) so that's a reason why there's no TFA and RO 4k Blu-Ray. After that, all new SW films will get a 4k Blu-Ray. Speaking of the previous films - I'd expect it when the Fox-Disney deal is finalized, so in about 2-ish years and to be more precise after IX is released.
     
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    AFAIK George Lucas did supervise 4K UHD transfers of the Original Trilogy, but that indicates Special Edition only and probably the same brightness, contrast and color issues of the last Blu-ray release. :(

    Rumor has it this year, but I believe it when I see it.
     
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    I wouldn't be shocked if they already do have 4K masters and are still working on them...although I think that they might be waiting to see how many copies of this 4K movie that they can sell...however, the good majority of people do not even have 4K players anyways
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    I think 4k is starting to be come more main stream. It's pretty much becoming a standard with TVs now and you can get the XBOX One S for pretty cheap now and that's one of the best, cheapest 4k players you can get. Warner Bros just released several Nolan movies couple months ago in 4k (real 4k transfers) and Amazon had a hard time keeping The Dark Knight 4k in stock, so the market is there. If they release the OT in true 4k, it will sell like hot cakes. I personally think they are waiting until the Fox deal is 100% complete before they release any of the OT movies.
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    Hopefully they'll go back and fix it. Probably one of the reasons why it's getting delayed especially until the Fox deal is complete.
     
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    Reviving an old thread; I'm not 100% sure of George Lucas' personal involvement with the actual reviewing of re-mastered content, but ILM worked closely with us to restore the original Star Wars Trilogy in 4K.

    For those curious, there was a budget, but compared to the DVD remasters we did a decade ago, more money was pumped into creating pristine masters of the original film scans. The remastered footage was completed around 2012, but unfortunately nothing has come of that since.

    I can most certainly guarantee you that nobody else is re-mastering the original SW films at this point. I say this with confidence because there is absolutely no one in the industry with technology as good as ours. Mind you that at this point, our software technology ceased development 6 years ago. If that tells you anything about the slow advancements in technology industry wide. This is the main reason Lucas came to us to begin with. We didn't do the color correction, we only color grade for our own internal purposes. Our outfit is the only place James Cameron, David Fincher and George Lucas, to name a few -- would send their films to. Unfortunately, a side effect of good work is price and the industry is flooded with cheap automated systems restoring films. The price the consumer pays is generic 4K upreses.

    In my opinion I can only assume that they are waiting for advances in color technology to really make the remasters "pop".

    Any questions are welcome, I'll try and answer what I can. (green)
     
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    I think that for ANH, GL still needs to be involved due to the nature of contracts most likely, but the other ones would probably be a wait and see game...who is "we?"
     
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    Who knows what their game plan is, considering the string of events after the last film. I almost want to go as far as saying that the 4K release of the last film was an attempt to milk profits.

    "We" were; Lowry Digital Images, DTS Digital Images, Reliance MediaWorks, and finally Lowry Digital Images under the Prime Focus Technologies umbrella. The software technology used was originally developed to work on NASA images.
     
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    Yeah to boost them lol .
     
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    The notion that no one else is remastering Star Wars in 4k out right false and a straight up lie. I don't know why you would come here to post misinformation when you could have just posted nothing.
     
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    And you say this with what certainty? We were the last to provide mastered scans of the original film. Unless you're here to tell me that Disney decided to re-do scans and initial masters, exactly what are you providing to this thread? Your post doesn't deliver. If you're here to tell everyone that someone else is doing the re-mastering from scan to digital master post vfx and color correction -- then say so.

    Do you understand the processes of actually remastering a film? All we provided was a mastered scan of the original with full image enhancement. No audio, no color correction, no VFX work, only a pristine restored digital version of the original. It is highly possible that someone is working on the digital delivery that we provided, I never denied that, but for me to believe that someone else out there has re-mastering capabilities beyond what we've delivered is not credible. If someone else is doing a remaster from scan, I can only say that it is being done through an automated system to save Disney money.
     
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    A 4K restoration of the theatrical Original Trilogy is one of my biggest and most hopeless Star Wars dreams. If it has to be special editions, I can live with it, but it's really a bummer.
     
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    I highly doubt we'll ever see an updated theatrical version of OT. That will go against George Lucas wishes. If we do get a 4k treatment of OT, it will be from SE since that is the current canon designated by GL. GL had plenty of time to release it and he didn't. I'm sure Disney will not release it since George never wanted it to happen.
     
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    That's why I say it's one of my most hopeless dreams. Apparently there's a decent fan restoration though, but acquiring it requires abilities some would consider to be unnatural.
     
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    You make some great points and you seem to be an "insider" but what is your qualifications and your sources behind this information? You only posted in this thread but not anywhere else. Your account is newly created and seems a bit fishy.
     
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    I can only say so much, but I was a lead image technician for several titles that were restored and have yet to see the light of day, such as True Lies 4K (4K transfer restored around 2013). Star Wars was a collaboration between several senior image technicians at the facility named above. I posted on this thread because I did a search on Star Wars 4K and came across this speculation thread. I thought it would be nice if someone with some insight could shed some light on the matter.

    This show-reel by Prime Focus Technologies illustrates the Lowry technology. The late John Lowry is the original founder of the company that eventually became a proprietary software suite. The best software suite in the industry by a long margin. I personally knew Mr. Lowry and I was one of the technicians that worked at both restoring films and R&D testing for newly developed software. I worked on several of the features illustrated in the show-reel.

     
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    Awesome. Thanks for your insight!!!
     
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    Rumor going around is Disney will release all SW films in 4k early 2020.
     
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