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Star Wars Rebels: 'Wolves and a Door' and 'A World Between Worlds' Review and Rebels Recon

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by SWNN Probe, Feb 27, 2018.

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    Warning! Spoilers Ahead!

    I've been a huge fan of this show since it debuted in 2013. The characters, the connections to other parts of canon, whether it be The Clone Wars, original trilogy, or prequels, it has always excelled in making the universe all feel connected. Which is why I'm in absolute awe of these two episodes. The connections are there. We finally get some sort of resolution or idea of plots that have been gnawing away at fans for years and it ultimately sets up Rebels for an absolutely grand finale that I don't think any of us are quite ready for.



    As I always do, lets start with what I liked:



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    After complaining about those damn Loth-Wolves last week, I'm glad we finally got some type of answer on what they are and what they've been doing for the crew. They've always been guides, but I just really like the way they were utilized in this episode. They literally move the story along with Ezra and the gang on their backs, and I really loved how afraid Zeb was of them initially. The most 'scary' and animal like member is afraid of these big furry wolves - maybe it's just my humor, but I loved it. The hyperspace-like loop that recapped the events of the show was a really beautiful and effective moment for me that highlighted some of the most important moments throughout the show, and I thought it was a great tribute to the journey they have all been on.



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    Let's talk about the Empire and it's wonderfully evil leader, Emperor Palpatine, being voiced by the man himself Ian McDiarmid. I love Sam Witwer, and he does a great Emperor voice, but you just can't beat the real thing. The moment he went on screen and I heard his voice I just couldn't help but have a big smile on my face, he's just so effortlessly evil and intimidating, and I didn't quite realize how much I missed hearing his voice. I also quite liked the inclusion of Minister Hyden voiced by the equally legendary Malcolm McDowell. He was a different kind of Imperial, and you could easily see why he worked for the Emperor and why he would help him. He's very inquisitive and while I don't think we'll see him again, he added to the episode.



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    The Empire itself in this episode had a very Indiana Jones Nazi feel. A force of evil looking for ancient artifacts to help it in it's push to rule everything, sounds very familiar, right?



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    It seems like the last two major releases from Lucasfilm, have really been pushing the boundaries of what the Force can do, and I adore the weird places that Filoni and the writers have taken it. We got a continuation from the Mortis arc in the Clone Wars while simultaneously pushing that story a little deeper and seeing what else it can do. The temple itself was very cool to me and with the inclusion of quotes from prequel era characters, Obi-Wan and Yoda in the originals and even Jyn Erso and Rey really added a lot of depth to the mysticism that made these episodes really work for me. To me, that's how the force works.



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    AHSOKA!?! Finally after two seasons of wondering what the hell happened to her, we finally saw it! If you had asked me, saved by future Ezra would not have been on my radar on how she made it out alive with her fight with her former master. It was so good to see something from her again and the sage wisdom she gives Ezra just feels like the best kind of Star Wars to me. I really enjoyed the similarities between Ezra and Anakin in the moment when we wanted to save Kanan. It sounded word for word what Anakin said when he wanted to do for Padmè and having Ahsoka talk him down was a nice touch and really brought it home for me.



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    The only problem I really had with these two episodes, are the exact opposite of what I had last week. While last week's episodes were kind of top heavy, with the exciting stuff happening at the front, this week's felt very bottom heavy. While the first half was setup, it did drag a little bit for me in places.



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    I'm incredibly excited to see next week's series finale. This episode really highlighted for me just how much Dave Filoni gets Star Wars and how I'll be very disappointed if he doesn't direct or write a live-action film one day. He worked side by side with 'The Maker' himself, and it just makes sense to me. On every level, his writing and knowledge of the lore make this Star Wars fan happy, and I'm positive he has one hell of a finale planned for us.



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    Also, be sure to check out this week's episode of Rebels Recon before you go!









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    Twitter user and Star Wars fan, William Devereux, has created a comprehensive list of the voices uttered by Jedi and other significant characters from across the 'Star Wars' galaxy heard in last nights episode of Star Wars Rebels:  'A World Between Worlds'. Ezra Bridger hears these voices when he falls through a doorway created by the Loth-wolf paintings and lands on a transparent pathway, suspended in a seemingly infinite starscape.


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    is this how carrie fisher should go out...leia acting like a spirit guide in the form of a lothwolf guiding rey
     
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    I can't help but spoil these episodes for myself, even though I haven't seen them yet.

    My lunch break can't come soon enough!
     
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    I really enjoyed the episodes... Mortis, Emperor, Ahsoka... that was all great. The only beef I have is that the Rebels didn't express even an ounce of shock that the Emperor is a force-wielding Lord of the Sith. In all the new canon that touched on this subject, we've been told that this was something that he intentionally kept very secret so it not something the Rebels should have known. I just wanted something... any sort of acknowledgement of "hey, this guy can use the force! And BTW- he looks way more evil and gross than in his holos."
     
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    Hmm, that is interesting. I haven't seen the episode yet, but is it clear that it's Palpatine (to them) or does he just seem like some random Sith?
     
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    It's explicitly stated it's Palpatine
     
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    VERY.NICE.TOUCH. I need to watch it again, but now I understand. Thanks for that.

    I wasn't sure about Jyn, but now I'm certain. Is there a list of all the voices heard? I heard Maz and Kylo too :D, and really like Vader words from different timestamps put into correct moment...
     
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    I really love this show, I loved the Clone Wars and i love Filoni but I absolutely hate what they did with Ahsoka. Time travel? Time travel is something that should be nowhere near Star Wars. It feels like a major cop-out and it also completely weakens the Season 2 finale and Vader as a character. I really feel like this was Filoni not wanting to let go of his prized creation and going all David Lynch in an attempt to save her. Vader killing Ahsoka would have been the perfect (albeit depressing) end to her character. I hope we never touch time travel again because I genuinely believe it has no place in Star Wars and opens up such a can of worms. It is Pandora's Jar.

    On a positive note, it was great to have Ian McDiarmid back as Palpatine.
     
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    These episodes were purely amazing they brought a tear to my eye. I can’t wait for the finale it’s been an amazing journey. These last episodes are some of the best story lines and voice acting I’ve seen in a long time.
     
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    Agreed so glad Ashoka was back, as I hoped she would be.
     
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    Loved the episodes even if I feel uneasy that time travel is now a thing in Star Wars but at least they used it in a clever way. I'm hoping that it is something we won't see that often as it can feel quite cheap when they use it to bring back dead characters in other series. I hope they never do this in Star Wars as I can see now that Episode VIII haters will want time travel in Episode IX to bring back Luke!
     
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    I 100% agree with you. I wasnt sure if I liked the idea of time travel at first but as you say it was handled well. I just hope they dont use it as an excuse now to bring back any key dead characters. To be honest it would ruin Star Wars if they did this multiple times. I dont really ever want to see or hear about the time travel ever again. That rebels episode is enough time traveling in Star Wars for me. If i remmeber correctly at the end of the episode the jedi time travel temple got destroyed. Hopefully there isnt anymore time travel gateways or temples in the whole universe if im honest. Even better if that one cant get that temple gateway back and open on Lothal some how idk. But otherwise I would hate for them to bring Luke back because it would make the films cringe and a bit cheesy. They shuold just leave the dead alone now.
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    Yeah it would be good to see her a bit more in the last remaining episodes. I just hope they keep this time travel thing a bit low key and bringing characters back from the dead. Ahsoka should be the only exception for the moment.
     
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    They kinda already did with Ahsoka.
     
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    I know but I just feel like it shouldnt be used often maybe even never used again. It just defeats the point. it means Jedi's are technically immortal now they can be brought back and edit there death battle to make them alive once again.
     
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    Well, technically they never set this up as an "edited death battle" for Ahsoka.

    The way I read the story as presented to us, Vader did not kill Ahsoka originally, and Ezra "later" changed things. In the Vader-Ahsoka fight, suddenly she disappears, Vader leaves, and then she comes back to the template after he leaves. He may or may not have known what happened to her. Ezra doing the "pull" is being done from outside normal space-time, but Ahsoka clearly knows that she has to go back to her original space-time, for fear of messing with the continuum.

    While a character could be plucked out of a timeline into the "World Between Worlds," we are shown nothing that would necessarily imply that HAD Ezra plucked Kanan out of his death timeline, that he would have been able to leave the WBW. And to a degree by the story as presented, he "couldn't" pluck Kanan out, because we would have seen that already.

    While the writers did get too close to time travel for my tastes, I am impressed how they didn't REALLY bring in time travel in the physical realm.
     
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    Yes, but if it wasn't time travel then what the hell happened in those years that passed?
     
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    I'm not so sure about calling this "time travel" yet. No one actually went completely to another time. Yes, Ezra influenced a past event, but he stayed in this timeless dimension all the time. And each character returned to their original time, with some additional knowledge. As I see it, this was a device to materialize the fact that time can be relative in the universe of the force, that people (particularly force users) can affect events differently, regardless of time or even after dying. In a way, it reminded me of Interstellar. There wasn't a universe where Asohka really died that we know of.
     
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    Agreed we saw more than enough of that in the last episode.
     
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    See, the interesting thing to me about Ahsoka is that time travel wasn't necessarily needed to bring her back. Her final scene in season 2 was ambiguous enough to not require it. Sure, it would be quite a feat to escape Vader's wrath, but I wouldn't think it so impossible that time travel was the more likely alternative.

    Makes me kinda wonder if there really are other reasons for the WbW, outside of simply bringing Ahsoka back.
     
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    I hope in future series's we see another temple like this.
     
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