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Star Wars Underwolrd

Discussion in 'Other TV Projects' started by odmichael, Jun 18, 2016.

  1. odmichael

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    After giving the Emperor a romantic relationship, I'm kind of glad the show was canceled. I don't think the emperor should have a love life. But I also don't think anyone should play the emperor except Ian McDiarmid and I'm not sure they could get him for the TV series.

    I do hope though that a future live-action TV series does get released.
     
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    Well it would make some sort of sense because why would anyone become bad...from a severely broken and twisted heart...similar to Anakin Skywalker
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    I don't need an explanation why he turned bad, the ultimate result is still the same and a broken heart is kinda unoriginal.
    Some things better left unspoken.
    Vader was an iconic villain even before his whole story was on screen.
     
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    You know what made the Emperor a great Villain. Just making him the pure evil bad guy that's manipulative and downright diabolical. How unsympathetic and heartless he is actually works out in his characters favor. Because it makes him mysterious, and alien to the rest of the cast.

    Trying to make the Emperor a sympathetic villain is a horrible idea (and probably why the show got canned) It's worse then trying to make Vader a sympathetic villain. The Emperor is just a Sith trying to take the Galaxy for himself, and doesn't care who he steps on to do so. Keep the Emperor as evil incarnate, and don't ever humanize him. We're not suppose to relate to his character anyway, it ruins any mystery he has.
     
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    The show was "shelved" because it was too expensive to film per episode.
     
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    And this is not a good reason, I don't know why Lucas is so budget focused. I mean he made billions, from 2ß-30 depending on sources, and he doesn't have the money? right, there are tv series's with much lesser backrounds.
     
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    The issue was making a full-season tv show for over $1M + per episode and a normal season is roughly 19 - 23 episodes with no official guarantee of a "to-series" order because he was going to film the entire season in one sitting...GoT can get away with it because it was developed internally by HBO and has only around 9 - 10 episodes a season.
     
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    The difference is Star Wars has a massive fanbase and GoT strated from some books fans with minimal budget, please. Star Wars can do this. He had those 25m.
     
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    Yeah I have to agree with you there lol but at that point maybe logistics would have been an issue .
     
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    Yeah it is like the budget of the prequels I can't believe he was so tight with the budget (whover didn't see the making of, you should watch it) that were 10bil overall and he goes in with 150m each. Is this just an investment?
     
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    It was actually $120M physical production budget roughly (from what I've heard) but at the end of the day it's all about the money so he has to justify said investments and see whether certain budgets are worth it or not because if it's not entirely justified then it's not necessarily a good idea so his belief as an investor/financier is that he put them on hold UNTIL the technology brought down the cost to under a mil per episode thus cutting the entire budget cleanly in half so he had every intention to produce these episodes regardless and it was really a matter of time
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    Under a million an episode would be a steal for a Star Wars Live Action TV show. Under Disney, I find a more realistic budget and way of distribution can be possible.

    Now it's just about finding the right people to do it.
     
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    Or more like finding the right channel because they better not turn it into a tween sitcom on the disney channel but maybe if they cut a deal with HBO
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    I think if it happens, it goes through an extension of the Disney-Netflix deal or it hits ABC.
     
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    ABC still seems too lighthearted for me because any storyline centered around Palpatine sounds really gruesome and tragic but yeah Netflix would seem like the most obvious choice but it would mean less money for Disney
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    @odmichael & @Rieekan here is how much GoT really costs per episode: $10 MILLION DOLLARS. The fact of the matter is that this show as I said above is it benefits from being made completely internally and distributed as such...the issue with SWU is that it was to be funded by literally one man and I'm pretty sure that the tv show would have cost the same range as 'Thrones would have cost so that's roughly $200M per season which is something that didn't seem like a good financial move regardless of how much money you are worth
    This article is very interesting of a breakdown that would be very similar for this tv show: http://hellogiggles.com/game-of-thrones-costs-lots-of-money/
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    Also, for the record, by the time this show was first announced roughly 101 episodes had been written and were in various stages of pre-production
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    That's not the impression I got. Since the series is called Star Wars Underworld, I got the impression that the love plot was a part of the overall series, and not set in the past.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if the "sympathetic Palpatine" mentioned by the God of War writer is how the average Imperial citizen percieved Palpatine, not the truth about Palpatine. Also keep in mind that everything written for Underworld is still canon.
     
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    Yeah a fully agree...I mean, it's "cooler" if he's kept more mysterious but a sympathetic villian has more stories.
     
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    I also love the irony that the average Imperial citizen saw Palpatine as a sympathetic figure and Vader as a merciless monster when in reality Palpatine was evil to the core and Vader had lost everyone he loved. Bonus points if there was a rumor that Vader uses mind tricks to control Palpatine.
     
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