Starkiller Base. Superweapons in Star Wars (And fiction fantasy in general)

I am thinking the more I see of this film, the more it looks like JJ's 2009 Star Trek. In the new clip, seeing the young cadets running to their ships as the enemy approaches, the elder from the previous series helping the young leads, the opposing enemy with a huge, powerful weapon, the red matter and the red markings on the First Order, having the new crew say lines from the Old movies, the Beastie Boy connection... I got a bad feeling about this.

Edit: thanks for the negative ratings guys. appreciate your insights as always.

 

I could list the differences DarthWalker but they are to numerous. And if that is the way you feel there is probably nothing that can be said to you to change your mind so why bother?

 

As I just listed some similarities I've noticed. It isn't pessimistic to be observant. Sorry we disagree. I don't know if you recall, But stating "I've got a bad feeling about this" comes from Star Wars. It isn't being negative. Sheesh...Kids today.

 

Kids? You assume to much. And I disliked your post not marked it as pessimistic.

 

Writing "I've got a bad feeling about this" after a post saying TFA is looking too much like JJ's Trek to you IS actually being negative. Just because you quoted Star Wars doesn't mean that statement isn't reflecting a negative opinion. Why would you pick that quote if you didn't actually see it as a negative? Why not say "Great shot, kid!" or "Tell your uncle if he gets a translator to make sure it speaks Bocce!" if you weren't trying to convey your feelings about the subject through the quote.

PS. I was going into Tosche Station to pick up some power converters!

 

Sorry, I just don't agree with you on this, and I'm tired of defending my quote. I can't recall a Star Wars quote that says "wow, lots of coincidences here". Feeling a bit concerned about some odd coincidences is not being negative, folks, as I didn't make any negative statement about TFA at all. Just a feeling like I've seen JJ's story telling methods a few years ago in the other space franchise. It's hard to have a running commentary with so many people when someone doesn't like what you say or don't agree just anonymously gives you a negative score rather then just say " I don't agree with that assessment and here's why...". To me, it's just a lack of courtesy, and you may go back to everything is awesome and epic.

 

You can actually see who gave you negative scores, so it isn't anonymous. I gave you a "disagree", by the way.
Why would you use the "bad feeling" quote if it didn't reflect your opinion? Star Wars fans use that quote when they feel something is going wrong or could go wrong. It isn't meaningless. "Feeling a bit concerned... is not being negative." You are saying that JJ is using the same storytelling as his Trek and that that is giving you a "bad feeling." That is being "negative" towards what you see as JJ repeating what he did on Trek. and I have no problem with that. I disagree, but I don't have a problem. We all have to live with negative ratings. You just have to deal with it. Complaining will just make more people dislike your comments.
"...and you may go back to everything is awesome and epic." Maybe it's stuff like that that gets you negative votes.

 

At the risk of piling on.

The aesthetic of 09 Trek was always said to have a strong resemblance to SW. Even JJ in interviews said that he wanted to show more infrastructure elements he felt help ground SW. As those who have shared pictures of Empire have shone soldiers milling about and prepping for work is very much apart of SW world building. Something you see extensively as Luke and Biggs catch up on Yavin, or Lando and Han say good bye before getting on the Falcon. I find it funny that a SW fan would complain that a director who openly stated he wanted to bring some of the elements from SW to Trek would complain that director would also use those elements in SW. Complain all you want about what he did to Trek (which I would say was a great movie) but its hardly criticism of what he could do for Star Wars.

 

I wouldn't look too far into it. One thing I notice about all filmmaking now a days, whether it be JJ Abrams or anyone else is the frequent need to move the camera. Shots are never just static anymore. You will never see a blockbuster use static shots, its just how movie making has progressed. Watching Return of The Jedi right as I type and I'd say 90% of the shots are static, which lends to the feel of Star Wars. I am looking forward to see where JJ takes this in a visual sense.

 

Are you saying that regular blades would be cut in half? That would be pretty silly looking IMO, and it would be hard to explain how a lightsaber beam can be cut like that.
And if it just passes through, then it would be as dangerous for him as for the opponent.

EDIT: @Darth Sidious Why the dislike? How do you see this working?

 

I can understand your worries, but I always thought that JJ transformed Star Trek into Star Wars (a group of young people trying to save the known universe from a guy that has a weapon able to destroy entire planets, and even the elder from previous series that help the young leads is something we saw in ANH and Empire with Obi Wan and Yoda if you see the movies in episodic order ), so if TFA will be similar to JJ's Star Trek then it means it's similar to Star Wars itself, and that is just great to me

 

If I have to be disappointed I'll be in december. I don't see the point to be pessimistic before having seen anything.

It's like I felt a plane will crash before taking it or being attacked by a shark everytime I go to swim.

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 19, 2015, Original Post Date: Oct 19, 2015 ---

It looks like a stronghold with a big cannon. Noway, this can move through space.

 

It makes sense that they'd build another Death Star or similar in a way. It was efficient at blowing up planets in ANH so why not just try and build a more efficient one again in the future. A bit rubbish for a similar plot device but you could see why it's a likely one.

 

Is it at all possible that the Icelandic shoot for the film is the interior of Starkiller base and we've been shown the outer shell in the poster. Maybe the planet is acting as the core for the weapon.

 

argh i just came on to post this exact same screenie and you beat me by 4 minutes lol