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Success or Failure of spin-off movies vs 3rd Spin-off

Discussion in 'General Stand-Alone Movie Discussion' started by MarsPhoenix, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. MarsPhoenix

    MarsPhoenix Sith Psychiatrist

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    I have strong reason to believe that the 3rd Spin-Off movie will be impacted whether the first 2 spin-off movies are successful or not.

    If it's a stunning success: there will be more spin-off movies after the 3rd one. So of all the spin-off ideas that are probably on the table, they might just pick-up the subject in consequence, without having to make heart-breaking choices... or even storywise, combining stories & characters.

    If 1 & 2 are a failure: then, they could decide between two things:

    Go for Direct-to-video Star Wars movies, or a TV series.

    Or just concentrate on mainstream Star Wars episodes.
     
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    In my view, Disney is strange with this, and not always consistent.

    By and large, what I think you see are series that end up having one really huge main movie followed by scores of sequels and even some spin-offs that are basically thrust out in the Direct-to-video format or even TV movie format. Think of the classics and more recent big hits that Disney has spammed out over the years, particularly since the 90s. The Disney Princesses, all of those types of things.

    Then again, you get other series that have people clamoring for sequels or spin-offs, and yet Disney seems to sit on their tails and not seeming to take full advantage of them.

    If anything though, I doubt in this case Disney will concentrate solely on the main series. They know this is a series that grabs the attention of boys of a young age to men of much older ages, and I doubt they'd miss that opportunity to target the demographic and thus bring several of us (and any of our kids) back into the Disney fold. I'd figure it's a somewhat tough demographic for them to gain without the Marvel/Star Wars franchises. For instance, Rebels is the only reason I even watch the Disney XD channel... I didn't even know I had it prior to the series premier. ;)

    My guess is a concentration on the mainstream series regardless, followed eventually by TV movies/specials (airing only on a Disney channel of course) that are of relatively cheap quality (regardless of the success of the spin-offs) to run alongside a TV series. They would want to draw people to their channel (and sell more ad space) in addition to drawing them to the theaters. They can then of course sell the movies/specials which originally aired on their channel.
     
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    I sincerely hope that multiplying releases of Star Wars wont dilluate the core movies, but it became such a vast universe, they could go on for a while with interesting stories... I mean, it's not like Star Trek or some Disney Princess franchises... In Star Wars, you have several main characters.... the prequels, OT, sequels, bounty hunters, rebel pilots, Bothans, smugglers, Hutts, droids, ewoks,... Old Republic, Clone Wars.... You can milk the brand for so many years without becoming redundant... as long as you keep very high quality standards.
     
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    I'm just happy we are getting Star Wars that's good enough for me. I still can't believe we are getting Force Awakens. Everyday I am like "HOLY Blast THERE IS GONNA BE ANOTHER STAR WARS MOVIE!" let alone every single damn year. It's a dream come true. Will they all be spectacular? No, there will be some not so good ones along the way but at the end of the day the fact that we are getting them outweighs any worries I have, for me at least.
     
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    The only fact that they "opened up" that DOOR, the one GL coudn't open on his own (it needed Disney... it was its Destiny), STAR WARS becoming bigger, vast and eternal.... so the future generations, my grandchildren and their children, weither it's on the big screen, small screen...or by then...I don't know...they might be tasting this universe in a completely different way we experienced it (total immersion)... I am just glad, and happy, and like you brilliantly said it... I still can't belive it's happening!
     
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    I think a live action series is 50/50. Unlike Star Trek, which is typically considered best in TV format, Star Wars is about spectacle on the big screen. It's an event. A direct-to-disc release system is, in my opinion, never going to happen. Not unless, or until, Disney drops all respect for Star Wars.

    I think Star Wars will be taken care of. Disney has done a great job of doing for its properties what is best for them. Marvel is recieving the TV/cartoon/film treatment because Marvel, and comic books in general, is/are well suited to multiple formats.

    Star Wars has always been something more special, not to speak ill of Marvel, which I love. Star Wars is film royalty, and I think it will stay that way :)
     
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    I personally believe something very radical is going to happen, and that after Episode IX there simply won't be any more Episodic sequel trilogies. Disney has already figured out the key to its success with the Marvel properties is universe building, and having a narrative that focuses narrowly on the timeline of a couple of families will ultimately lesson their ability to tell properly epic stories (just look at the EU-- there was a lot of good stuff there, but after a while the nature of the threats to Luke & Co. had lower and lower stakes and less and less originality). When you factor in the fact that the "Star Wars Stories" are always going to seem like a less-important byway when compared to the "proper" numbered episodes when they're released concurrently, and it becomes harder and harder to believe that Disney isn't going to decide that the best way to make money off of its investments will be to focus on stand-alone movies or series.
     
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    I doubt they will be failures.
     
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    It is interesting that you mention that about the possibility of a Live Action Series, we have only seen it in the form of cartoons and SWs unlike ST isnt TV, but i am not against it, if it is done right. It would also certainly give people alot of what they want in-between and waiting for the movies or spin offs. It would have to be not on the average outdated networks, like NBC/CBS that cancel things because the numbers done happen or otherwise. Id like to see something like on HBO/Starz or even Netflix, they can push it while you cant do that on the other networks. Its just like my opinion is the same when it comes to a new TV show for Startrek, i don't want to see it on the old networks, i want to see it on a network that will take it and push it, instead of playing it safe. In the same way we see Game of Thrones, Walking Dead and on and on on.
     
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    I think Netflix is really the way to go. I wish the recently announced ST series would be on Netflix, rather than this relatively unknowm CBS service of theirs. Star Wars could do great on Netflix. I watched most lf TCW on Netflix and enjoyed the experience, and I think a live action series, like Daredevil, could feel very natural, if done in an episodic way, in keeping with form.
     
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    Oh, HANDS DOWN! Right on the money, i am so sick to death hearing about the usage of these outdated networks when other networks know how to do great TV like Netflix, HBO, Starz you name. They really have pushed the narratives on these networks and look at the numbers? They are insane! GoT, WalkingDead, they are around 10-20Mil viewers and Netflix is i think around the 10mil mark on several of its own programming. So, it makes sense and i think it could be well received in said format. WE have NEVER seen SW on TV (Excluding Cartoons) as it has been in STUniverse, but i think with the available mediums today and leaving out the old outdated networks they would do awesome. These new available platforms like Netflix is just awesome, people are tired of being forced into programming packages that they don't want, they are still working on old outdated models that DON'T Work in this environment any longer and they are slow to adapt. We have heard rumors that a live action SW TV could happen and might be on Netflix, which would be insane if that happened!
     
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