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Surprise! Episode IX Discovery aided by LucasFilm Story Group.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by The Futurition, Dec 25, 2018.

  1. The Futurition

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    Merry Christmas to those reading this today!

    Anyways let's get to the good stuff. First off, I think we might all like very much where IX may be heading.

    Also, although real leaks are hard to come by, Son of Darkness may be very well fitting.

    Matt Martin from the Lucasfilm Story Group mentioned on twitter that in Vader #25 there is a very subtle hint of something. That very few people have picked up on. Well, didn't take long before sleuths sleuthed. As did I.

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    As did I. If you haven't read it, I totally recommend it, and I don't read comic books. Ok. The obvious connection to Kylo Ren. Vader goes through a portal to save Padmé. As he goes through it, he goes through this.




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    Did Vader communicate telepathically with Ren through time? is everything he said at that point in the film a lie? Now that we have the obvious, that isn't even where the subtle hint lies. This is where the hint lies according to Matt Martin.


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    It's underneath Mustafar. There seems to be an image of some kind, but also just the fact that it's underneath.

    Where did Snoke's ring come from?

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    So there we have a 100% connection between Snoke, Kylo Ren, and Darth Vader.

    What I did do, is also go back to when Kylo Kills Snoke in TLJ and see if he took the ring after his death, frame by frame, He didn't.

    So Let's speculate for a moment that Kylo knows all about Mustafar's underground and portal, So he heads back there in IX to become the ultimate Son Of Darkness. He will finish what Vader started?

    He could easily harness all the dark power beneath, that is also why Vader's home is there, so he could harness all the dark power. The comic explains it.

    Some of you, without overthinking it, could easily put 2 and 2 together and even sleuth further.

    I would love to tell you what else happens in Vader # 25, but that would be too much. I don't think I'm forgetting anything, but If I did, i will add to this.


    Ok. I have to add to this. Just to further muddy the waters.

    At this point, really don't know what to think about IX anymore. Ok I will not upload the picture, read if you want to.

    Sideous says to Vader at one point in the comic.

    ''Believe me when I tell you-- This Galaxy is built on lies. Finding one true thing...nothing is more difficult''

    I'm thinking perhaps, the most flippant twists of this trilogy may yet to be in IX. ANYTHING can happen now.
     
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    Sorry, this doesn't have anything to do with Episode IX.
     
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    What do you expect him to say? Yes you got it? Or you figured out a plot point?

    I just showed you 100% canon connection between Vader and the new trilogy. The rest is up to you.

    There was an episode in Rebels where Ezra also goes through the portal, and the audio is definitely Rey's flashback scene from TFA. So I do think there is something with the portal.
     
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    Well that was short-lived.
     
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    The reason Vader exist is to bring back Pademe, to save her. It is the only thing Kylo can finish for Vader. Rey’s vision in TLJ opens door to time travel and WBW.

    Disney would Love to have Vader back as well. Just for selling toys if nothing else.
     
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    I'm sorry what was short lived? If you mean his answer? Have you ever seen a LFSG member ever give away a film plot point? yeah I didn't think so either.

    But if it isn't that? I'm listening. ;)
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    Although I'm sure they would looove to somehow include Vader in IX, in my opinion, that just won't happen. May be in a flashback. Even then....Though I do think Mustafar and Vader's castle have a great chance to be in it.
     
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    I only see a madalorian helmet style in the explosion illustration.
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    If there's a meaning, is definetly hidden. But definetly there is something underneath Mustafar castle. Hope to see something like this in 9
     
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    Where does TLJ indicate anything that time trave has the possibility tol exist? I would love to see WBW in live action, you don't do something like that and only leave it for a 22 minute show. I just don't see them doing it, time travel is apparently a touchy subject.
     
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    I cannot see WBW showing up in Episode 9. It is too incongruous with the rest of the movie series, and would leave many people really confused. Same with time travel - it does not belong in SW. I would be really disappointed/upset if they threw in something like this out of nowhere in the last movie of the series as a plot device.
     
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    You leave the WBW to the shows and comics because it's not something the average viewer gives a hoot about. It was a bad decision on Rebels but since they did it, it should stay there. When you have things like the WBW it creates a loophole to remove consequences...like keeping Asokha alive when she clearly shouldn't be just because Filoni won't write her off. You'd have to do damn near a whole movie to explain it to the movie audience.
     
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    I don't think the movie audience is that dumb. Remember they brought Maul back, and he's mostly been a animated character. They're able to grasp that if you haven't seen the previous MCU movies, you shouldn't see Infinity War.
     
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    Maul was an inconsequential cameo at the end of the movie.
    You are talking a major plot point.

    The Marvel movies are their own thing. You can't use them to compare the structure of other movies. For good or bad. They are just their own thing.

    You need the general movie going audience on board with your movie. If you randomly throw the WBW into a Star Wars movie you will mostly just piss people off.
     
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    Its just, with the the power that WBW can bring, I find it hard to believe that future darksiders won't try to use it. Also, they introduced WBW to a show designed for a kid audience. If they feel that kids are able to grasp the concept in a 22 minute show, a "general audience" can grasp it for a 2 hr movie.
     
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    But again, kids who are locked in Star Wars fans. That's who watches Rebels. And adult Star Wars fans. I'm talking general audience. People who only see Star Wars movies and probably don't know Rebels exists.

    You have to explain it to them. And explain why no one used it before. When you have to do that, it is now the main plot of the movie. Is that really what you want the main plot of 9 to be?
     
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    WBW isn’t that bad in and of itself. Moviegoers understand the Force is mystical, and can likely accept something like that if done correctly.

    The main instance was used was, as far as I’m aware, a situation where the outcome was already ambiguous. But the time trave aspect is a tricky beast, because you don’t know the actual outcome until it happens, which is why it’s usually best to tread lightly.

    If Ben literally saves Padme via WBW somehow, that’d possibly destroy the OT. Metaphorically is a different issue.

    As for Darksiders using it, that depends on if they know more about it and how to access it.
     
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    With Maul the "general audience" assumed he had been dead for a long time, and they threw a curve ball at them. Like, hope you have watched TCW, you are the weakest link, good bye. I would rather them to use WBW and not explain it.
     
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    He was a 30 second cameo, if that.
    You are talking a major plot point.
    There's a HUGE difference.
     
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    He was designed to be the big reveal for the movie. It was just a wee bit more then a cameo. There was a reason they kept him out of the marketing.
     
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    Because he was a 30 second cameo. Marketing him would be revealing his entire bit. That'd be silly.
    You're comparing apples to oranges.
     
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    You should spend less time killing the messenger and more time reading Matt's tweets. He goes on to speculate about what is revealed if you bother to keep reading. This isn't related to Episode IX.
     
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