Surprise! Episode IX Discovery aided by LucasFilm Story Group.

You created a thread about a Lucasfilm employee's tweet about a comic. He clarified his tweet and there's been much discussion about what he's talking about if you took five minutes to research it. I don't understand why you're being hostile towards me for simply pointing out this isn't about Episode IX.

 

If the WBW is opened and somehow Ashoka and Ezra are there and become relevant to the conclusion of the story, then that would probably leave some people confused because those characters would appear to be last minute additions to the saga if you haven't watched the TV shows. But the concept of the WBW itself, or the idea of using the force to undo actions from the past would not be that difficult for "general audiences" to grasp. Darth Vader is one of the greatest characters in the history of film, or even in the history of human storytelling. I wouldn't underestimate how much Disney values Vader, and how far they'd go to include him in the story. Or even how awesome it would be to see him come back, if it was done well.

Weather or not it's a good plot for the final chapter is another matter. But in a universe where there are laser sword wielding knights with magic telekinetic powers, talking teddy bears, hyperspace travel, space stations that can destroy planets with a single laser beam, and a main character that was created in a virgin birth...Time travel is by no means too far out.

 

I think there is something very relevant in the idea that Sith ghosts can 'haunt' relics, because that has been referenced in several instances in the new non-film canon. Plus the conversation Kylo has with Vader's mask in TFA where he says "show me AGAIN the power of the darkness" implies that he has already had a connection to Vader before. In TFA concept art they show Vader and Anakin as two separate force ghosts. I think JJ may resurrect this idea (pun intended) and use it to bring Darth Vader back in episode 9.

I'm not saying this would be a good idea - I have a hard time thinking of ways they could do this without it feeling ham-fisted or silly. But the more I think about it, the more I'm starting to feel like Disney / JJ / Lucasfilm will do it...

 

I believe the comic is not different than Rebels WBTW in the sense that Vader is hearing words said in the past or in the future by other people, just like Ezra did.
That’s all.
There’s not a deeper connection with Kylo.
His words are there just like ghise pf Shmi, Sidius etc...
That said I don’t think the nc holds any clue related to the main saga.
I believed that was the case but I guess it’s pretty obvious by non is not.
In the other hand, they can surely do whatever they want in IX. Eden more so because of the creative freedom LF is giving ti his authors. All of them.
Il they want to explore further this kind of staff in IX they will.
It’s not a path. Just a chance

 

@The Futurition to me is far more simple... Vader sees and hears people and scenes from the past (and those words are said by the people that said those words in universe, it’s not him telling them), he sees some scenes from the future (where he’s going to be present) and he hears a voice (only) form the future. That of Ben.
The difference between him and Ezra might be only that Vader/Anakin has an actual connection to all those people.
He knew them all, in all cases but one (Kylo) he was present or he’s going to be present when those words are spoken.
Kylo is both the only one among them he won’t ever met and the only one he does not see.
That could be the reason as to why Vader does not see him.

But to tell you the truth... I believe this is overthinking.
It’s just a storyline - imo - very similar to that of Ezra in Rebels.

 

I haven't read Vader 25 yet because I only read and collect trades now but, I honestly can't see them incorporating world between worlds into IX. It's too obscure. I KNOW Episode IX is gonna rock just as much as Soule's Vader.

 

They didn't and Matt said this wasn't about Episode IX. The talk about 25 is in regards to Anakin's birth and not about Episode IX.

 

Ok, good. I saw all the conversation/posts about Anakin's birth. Works for me. Make's his redemption even more meaningful.

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That’s not meant to be taken literally... and no. I said subtle!</p>&mdash; Matt Martin (@missingwords) <a href="">December 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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The parts about Anakin's birth are there and are being talked about but Matt said that the things he is hinting about are far more subtle than those panels. When fans zoomed in on the mysterious orange/fiery shapes under the castle when Vader destroys the altar, Matt said they found the clue. I have no idea what those shapes are or what they are referring to. A lot of people see a Mandolorian helmet shape and two or three round buildings that look a little bit like Naboo. Matt confirmed that it wasn't Naboo but was something/somewhere else.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"> <a href="https://t.co/wqohLWq5ui">pic.twitter.com/wqohLWq5ui</a></p>&mdash; Matt Martin (@missingwords) <a href="">December 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This, from Vader #25, does indeed mean something. It’s not Naboo, but it’s cool. You’ll see. <a href="https://t.co/GI56xk2Kfw">https://t.co/GI56xk2Kfw</a></p>&mdash; Charles Soule (@CharlesSoule) <a href="">December 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Option B</p>&mdash; Matt Martin (@missingwords) <a href="">December 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It isn’t Kylo.</p>&mdash; Matt Martin (@missingwords) <a href="">December 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s that thing there. It doesn’t have a hidden meaning.</p>&mdash; Matt Martin (@missingwords) <a href="">December 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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It's a Darth Revan mask easter egg. Don't think it's TOO much more than a hint he may be coming back.

 

It's a great series. Probably my favorite. It's about a lot of things, but as Matt said... what's he's discussing doesn't have to do with Episode IX. That's fine if you want to create a thread about Matt's tweets and selectively ignore the tweets that debunk the topic. Heck, I'll even grant you the possibility Matt decided to lie. Anything is possible.

What I don't understand though, it your hostility to me for simply point out the source for your thread says it's not about a future film.

If I had to bet, I'd bet on Matt being right and JJ Abrams not even being familiar with this series when he wrote the script for IX.

Agree to disagree and move on.

 

We're all gonna find out soon. No need to argue. 2019 is going to be huge!

 

I think that if Vader makes any appearance in IX, it will be very brief in some sort of scene with Kylo. I don't feel like Kylo needs to "be led by another dark side force user" and can't think things out on his own. Is he unhinged? Sure. But why can't the rule of two be broken in this instance? Rey is just as alone in her struggle as Ben is. It's a 1 on 1 confrontation in the GFFA for the first time I think we have ever seen in canon. Sure, the Force will be at play in terms of potential Force ghosts, but if we have learned anything about them, it is that they impart knowledge and don't make situations better or worse for personal gain. The closest we ever saw to any Force ghosts effecting anything was Yoda using the Force to strike the tree with lightning, but that really didn't gain anyone anything. It just taught Luke a lesson to pass on what he had learned. I think he will do the same from the realm of the Force like those before him. I still never understood why people think half of Anakin Skywalker is out there in Force form on the dark sid just because they believe he is a "balance of the Force" in life and in spirit and he "has to have half and half of each" to somehow be relevant in that realm. He's redeemed in Return of the Jedi and balances the Force in that moment. The bigger question is why the Force would suddenly become unbalanced through Snoke. Was he born of the Force like Anakin? Only time will tell. We just have to play the waiting game for the next big scoop or trailer to get the general vibe of what Ep. IX is going to portray moving forward. Maybe there are bigger questions we have never considered lying in the midst of the script that need answering more than more trivial things like if Vader is talking to Kylo through time. We also have yet to see the rumored second apprentice to Snoke. That well seemed to dry up a long time ago and I hope that is brought back into the speculation fray.



Nothing is impossible in the GFFA, so keep the speculation rolling.

 

According the story Group they go where the stories Go Id be Surprised if anything connects to either The PT or OT I think Culmination will be more Thematically than Directly The Sequel Trilogy is about Legacy I doubt we will see any reflects from a Long time past The story group may have given suggestions but I to Terrio and Abrams while writing the script the great thing about LFSG is that they don't prohibit their creative freedom and I'm ok with With Episode.IX not directly connect to the OT/PT the Entire Sequel Trilogy is about Legacy