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SW; fantasy, lore and mythology and a little whimsy

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by Sparafucile, Feb 28, 2019.

  1. Sparafucile

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    SW has its own feel. As fans, we often buck at the misnomer of sci-fi and prefer sci-fantasy.

    Yet, set in space, it shares a state both in between sci-fi and fantasy, and often the attributes of both collide. After all, this is sci-fi with Wizards and cults, ghosts and prophecy. The setting in a futuristic world (I know, a long long time ago, bear with me) with machines we can almost relate to, with skill sets that resemble are own more than those in medieval times, makes for its unique atmosphere.

    It also draws on the old west, WWII and other conflicts. It's a mishmash of genres, both historical and fantastical, futuristic and mythological. From planet sized cities, to uninhabited planets with alien fauna and flora. There's a sense of deep history, a mystery that resides on every world.

    All this intro to ask, do you think SW will ever delve deeper into the fantastical or mythical? Will it, or should it, resemble that of earth, or should writers and creators strike out more on their own to find more original ideas?

    Some of my SW fun came in rpg's. What often happened would be our GM (game master) would be less knowledgeable of the world, with merely a basic concept of the movies. After so many Imperial entanglements, and our characters become more powerful, the story teller would take liberties. Usually once this happened, it wouldn't take long before the story jumped the shark and all would come crashing down. Suspension of disbelief lost.

    Force dragons was one such concept. Dragons belonging to pretty much every society in one form or another on our planet, it seemed like a natural progression. It never seemed to fit. Oh, we'd play along eagerly, all of us also having interest in fantasy ourselves, but at some point it ceases to be SW.

    The much beloved (or maligned) Ewok movies touched on those concepts. Giant men and spiders, skeletal beings and witches that can polymorph, magical artifacts, sprites or trapping waters. I guess there's a reason why those movies never quite caught on, beside being aimed at a younger audience. Yet, in an entire galaxy, our limits are truly only our imagination.

    Where does the fantastical become too much for you? Or, alternatively, what mythical or fantastical landscape, creature or idea would you like to see in a SW movie? With future movies coming that will shed ties from the saga, it is at least possible the imagination of future writers might want to delve into the mythology of our past, or strike out with truly original ideas.

    Anyways, share your ideas, and if inspired, detail how such ideas can work within the SW universe. Or state your opinion on whether SW should even consider delving whimsically into the fantastical. Looking forward to reading your responses.
     
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  2. NinjaRen

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    For me Star Wars was/is always fantasy. If somebody says Star Wars is a Sci-Fi movie, then I'm responding it's not. It's a fantasy movie, a space opera.

    I actually hope that the GoT Maker's trilogy is about dragons and the first Jedi. Sounds kinda awesome.

    As long as it's depicted right, then it would never become too much for me. I remember the rumor of Snoke being a giant (about 20 feet high) and people hating on it. I wasn't a big fan of this either, but if it was told correctly, then I would have accepted it.

    I don't watch Rebels, but didn't this show have a lot of those concepts?
     
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    It all comes down to execution, right? We've already got wolf men, devil men, fish men, pig/orcish like men in SW, as well as axes and fire swords ect and such. It's not that much of a stretch to see some large reptile. Imagine a dragon that's wingless, but is technologically advanced and created metal wings for itself?

    I find part of the idea fascinating, but it could so easily turn into a mess. GL already pushed those limits in the cantina lol, but it worked. I guess my fear is that delving into this could lose a ton of fans. I'm sure some people would hate it, and linking it into a galactic story could be difficult or at least challenging. There's no point walking through a desert if you have a spaceship that can carry you. You don't want long drawn out side stories that feel like TPM pod race.

    I'm obviously mixed on the idea, but I still find it fascinating. I think it could be done right in some circumstances, but it would have to be really well thought out to make it work.

    Edit: I wouldn't mind having a series like this, but then have something else more traditional, and maybe another that leans part ways closer to a star trek (space exploration, delving into morality and ethics, new civilizations, ancient ones even). I love all those genres, and SW is situated in such a way that it could cover them all, done right, believably.
     
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    I personally felt the space whales in Rebels was a bit of a stretch in the SW Universe. Those few episodes pushed my suspension of disbelief to the limits. I can rationalized the asteroid worm in ESB (even that isn't logical) but those whales are hard to rationalized. Maybe those whales are one of the food source for that asteroid worm?
     
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    The SW universe feels both familiar and strange, that's its charm. It takes concepts that are very well known to us (if only on a subconscious level) and presents them in new, original forms. It allows us to discover new things, but with a "safety net" of familiarity that we don't consciously notice right away. That's how SW "traps" us, why it has such a large fanbase. It makes us feel comfortable in a seemingly alien world. So elements like dragons would never work, they'd just shatter the illusion. What WOULD work would be flying creatures that resemble dragons. Like the ones in Avatar, for example. In fact, now that I think of it, all of Pandora would fit perfectly in the SW universe. So there's no limit to what/how many fantasy elements SW could use. As long as it gives them new shapes and keeps the familiar/strange contrast, we'll stay "mesmerized".
     
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